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If it's really what you want to do, I'd say go for it. But don't feel that it is the only option. It's a good idea to research universities in your area to see which ones have the courses and philosophies you find most suitable.
THe one I went to wasn't really the best for me. A more traditional one, with cloisters and ivy covered walls would have been better.
Yes, I definitely recommend going to university. I'm in my 2nd year and it's going well. You have so much more options with a degree than you would without one.

metaller Wrote:
Yes, I definitely recommend going to university. I'm in my 2nd year and it's going well. You have so much more options with a degree than you would without one.


Not necessarily. It depends what you want to do and you shouldn't have to feel obliged to get tertiary qualifications if you don't wish to. There is also the danger of being considered "overqualified" for the types of jobs that are often good for us such as clerical work.

tenaciouscj Wrote:

metaller Wrote:
Yes, I definitely recommend going to university. I'm in my 2nd year and it's going well. You have so much more options with a degree than you would without one.


Not necessarily. It depends what you want to do and you shouldn't have to feel obliged to get tertiary qualifications if you don't wish to. There is also the danger of being considered "overqualified" for the types of jobs that are often good for us such as clerical work.


Yeah, but I want to be able to earn a good wage. Stuff like clerical work is not exactly highly-paid.

katiekun11 Wrote:

I tried.  And failed.  Period.  Tongue
It was a classroom full of idiots.  I mean, some of them didn't even know how to add and subtract!  Tongue  What happened was, I went in and it was a bunch of chavs (do you guys know what chavs are?)... they were playing awful music, drinking, smoking, talking about drugs, swearing, and interrupting the tutor!  No WAY would I ever want to bother with ----heads like that!  So there is NO CHANCE that I will ever go back to that course... and with good reason too.  Big Grin


Sidenote: I live in Greece, and things might be different here, although I watched a video of a USA lecture, and people talked about how sexy the teacher was, or how smart he must be by having the mustache.

(in Greece) I've been in a class  with peers not interested at all with what the tutor (teacher) has to say. It was awful all through my life to meet such people. Only maybe through K11 I met some decent people, but my previous experiences (here I mention bullying again) had like torn me apart, so I could in no way adapt to that K11.

metaller Wrote:

tenaciouscj Wrote:

metaller Wrote:
Yes, I definitely recommend going to university. I'm in my 2nd year and it's going well. You have so much more options with a degree than you would without one.


Not necessarily. It depends what you want to do and you shouldn't have to feel obliged to get tertiary qualifications if you don't wish to. There is also the danger of being considered "overqualified" for the types of jobs that are often good for us such as clerical work.


Yeah, but I want to be able to earn a good wage. Stuff like clerical work is not exactly highly-paid.

Maybe not, but I'd rather a job like that which I know that I can do than a high-paid job that is continually stressful. I get enough money to live on, so what more would I want?

tenaciouscj Wrote:

metaller Wrote:

tenaciouscj Wrote:

metaller Wrote:
Yes, I definitely recommend going to university. I'm in my 2nd year and it's going well. You have so much more options with a degree than you would without one.


Not necessarily. It depends what you want to do and you shouldn't have to feel obliged to get tertiary qualifications if you don't wish to. There is also the danger of being considered "overqualified" for the types of jobs that are often good for us such as clerical work.


Yeah, but I want to be able to earn a good wage. Stuff like clerical work is not exactly highly-paid.

Maybe not, but I'd rather a job like that which I know that I can do than a high-paid job that is continually stressful. I get enough money to live on, so what more would I want?


I agree on that "a job like that which I know that I can do than a high-paid job" and that "I get enough money to live on, so what more would I want?", as a basic reason of why I would want work.

hrick

Of course being an Aspie will hold you back, just like not having great grades at start will hold you back.  Everyone has their individual burdens, it is just that some are more visible than others.  Do it anyway.  If that was not the program for you find another one and try again. And don't focus on the others, focus on yourself and what you will be getting out of it.  As I understood your writing this program was intended as just an interim stepping stone so that you could do what you really wanted to relative to continuing your education.

I also read your post script.   For you to laugh at them...and I quote:
"It was a classroom full of idiots.  I mean, some of them didn't even know how to add and subtract!"  

... is no different than them making fun of you as an Aspie. Neither is acceptable.  At least those individuals, with all of their issues were trying to better themselves.... and apparently, they didn't immediately give up on the effort. How much better equipped were you? Yet you gave up before you even got started. I do not mean to be harsh with you.  I kind of think you may have found excuse to sabatoge yourself rather than risk failing. There are far worse things in life than failing.  To not try is guaranteed failing. Go back and try again, if not that program then another one. If nothing else it will help you mature as a person.

Mom of Hrick

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Barney Wrote:
When you increase your education, you make the world better not just for yourself, but for those around you. It is noticable that the trashiest elements of society tend to be the least educated in most cases. Education makes us all better people.


That has not been my experience.  At all.  Education creates people who often think they're better people, and who can send out a lot of signals to show they're educated and therefore better or something.  It doesn't actually make them better (or worse), though.  A lot of what you're seeing is filtered through class biases.

I simply reported it. You could do that too, to show you're concerned.
But I don't know how we could force anybody to hire us, given that we're usually rather timid.
You might want to look at:
http://www.users.dircon.co.uk/%7Ecns/index.html
"University Students With Autism And Asperger's Syndrome", set up by Clare Sainsbury (BA Philosophy & Politics, New College, Oxford).
My main complaint about this site is that it doesn't offer any advice about how to get work experience at university - if anything, Clare implies that academic qualifications can compensate for a lack of work experience.

Clare Sainsbury Wrote:
Because an autistic spectrum condition can make it harder to find or keep a job, qualifications are especially important. University can turn typical autistic spectrum skills (such as excellent memories, special interests, affinity with computers, etc.) into meaningful and useful qualifications.

GuessWho, I'm not sure what kind of first move he's talking about. If he means that the woman looks over at you and smiles, maybe that's it. If he means that she asks him for a date, not so sure. I was brought up in the era when ladies were supposed to wait to be asked and would not feel comfortable about asking somebody out for a date.

It must be difficult for guys and I don't know any easy answers unfortunately but if what you just posted up is an example of GroovyDruid's advice, it doesn't seem the best.

Pakrat Wrote:
Also, unless there are serious reasons for not living at home whilst doing your studies, I think it's better to do them from home.

Does the desire for independence not count as a serious reason?

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