Aspies For Freedom

Parody? Or troll?

Does somebody with more subtext ability than me want to elucidate? Because I'm confused. The blog just seems like a lot of randomness to me.

Mich Wrote:

http://ha tingautism.blogs pot.com/

Hasn't anyone seen this site yet? Yeccch. They believe that mercury poisoning myth. I responded to this blog entry with this message:

[quote]
"Hating Autism "
"This blog exists to speak the truth about Autism which is really mercury poisoning. The more people who know the truth, the closer we will be to wiping out this man-made epidemic."

This sounds like a parody of curebies, or at least a hate site. Sheez. And the name "Hating Autism"? I guess this is a hate site, then....*sigh*.

Accept us as we are. Serously. The difference between autism and mercury poisoning, the main difference, is that one's <i>deadly</i> and one's <i>not</i>. Then there are a bunch of other differences.

I tihnk that conspiracy theory is bullshite made up by Generation Rescue-type curebies, personally. I also want to point out that mercury has been heavily used in medical treatment for years before the "autism epidemic" supposedly began ( http://www.umich.edu/~ece/student_projec...hepox.html ), so it's nothing new.

Diagnosing autism has just improved. It's not vaccines, unless of course you want your kids to get measles, mumps, and rubella. [/quotes]

Sheeeeez. And yes, I know my message is kind of crappy.

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This guy would did this blog came on NH Autism Site and started spouting off his inane ideas... I shut him up pretty quickly... nothing but tripe..

Have you seen this one ridiculously insane post? Neurodiversity Murders a Teenager Fore-Sam claims that if only this 16 year old student was cured of Aspergers, the victim's family wouldn't have to "celebrate the joy of autism"

Neurodiversity Murders A Teenager

Outside of Boston today, in the Lincoln Sudbury High School, an teen with Asperger's stabbed a fellow student to death. I don't know why he did that. It's not important. He'll probably get off easy with a diminished capacity defense.

I'd like to hear what there is to celebrate about this from my friends at the Autism Hub. Is the dead boy's family celebrating the joy of autism tonight?

I've heard more than enough from these assholes who don't want autism cured. If this kid with Asperger's had been cured, he may have found a better way to deal with whatever this situation was. Where are all the do-gooders like Estee Klar when things like this happen? Will she tell us how wrong it is to cure a murdering teen? Would curing this kid have prevented a murder?

Where are the neurodiverse psychologists? Why aren't safeguards put in place so these kids have avenues to vent their anger besides murder? Is neurodiversity teaching these kids to murder people who rub them the wrong way? What is neurodiversity doing to prevent this behavior? From what I can see, all they are doing is accepting the diversity, even if it means murder.

How many more times will this happen with the growing numbers that neurodiversity denies? This is just the tip of the iceberg. That boy was born at the start of the epidemic. There will be many more to follow. All the neurodiverse knuckleheads who won't help their kids may well be raising murderers. It's time you jerks woke up to the fact that people with brain damage are laible to do just about anything. That's right, brain damage. That's the most apt description for all autistic spectrum disorders. Lunatics who insist on celebrating this brain damage instead of addressing it are setting society up for a lot more of this aberrant behavior. May the next incident of this type of thing fall on the head of a neurodiverse parent with their head in the clouds instead of an innocent victim who probably knows nothing about this epidemic of brain damage that you idiots want to deny.

Besides, many of the comments to that blog I hyperlinked above are totally making Fore-Sam look stupid.

Here are some quotes:

David N. Andrews MEd (Distinction) Wrote:

Many more non-autistics commit murder.

Gonna *** them off too, John?

Or shall we do that for you?

Frank Wrote:

I think it's more likely that this tragic episode happened because of the drugs he was put on than rather the condition of being autistic. A little perspective.

reality check Wrote:

I wish that all of these idiots that post here would get a clue.

The idiot is Foresam because he's a bully.

Foresam's blog is nothing compared to this site. Take a look at it. This is the worst autism petition I've ever seen. Kick autistics out of America? wtf? Obviously, the people here are REALLY stupid, because they can't even spell or type correctly lol!! http://w ww.petiti onspot.com/petitions/kicko utautisticr etards/signatures

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aspie44.8 Wrote:

Have you seen this one ridiculously insane post? Neurodiversity Murders a Teenager Fore-Sam claims that if only this 16 year old student was cured of Aspergers, the victim's family wouldn't have to "celebrate the joy of autism"

Neurodiversity Murders A Teenager

Outside of Boston today, in the Lincoln Sudbury High School, an teen with Asperger's stabbed a fellow student to death. I don't know why he did that. It's not important. He'll probably get off easy with a diminished capacity defense.

I'd like to hear what there is to celebrate about this from my friends at the Autism Hub. Is the dead boy's family celebrating the joy of autism tonight?

I've heard more than enough from these assholes who don't want autism cured. If this kid with Asperger's had been cured, he may have found a better way to deal with whatever this situation was. Where are all the do-gooders like Estee Klar when things like this happen? Will she tell us how wrong it is to cure a murdering teen? Would curing this kid have prevented a murder?

Where are the neurodiverse psychologists? Why aren't safeguards put in place so these kids have avenues to vent their anger besides murder? Is neurodiversity teaching these kids to murder people who rub them the wrong way? What is neurodiversity doing to prevent this behavior? From what I can see, all they are doing is accepting the diversity, even if it means murder.

How many more times will this happen with the growing numbers that neurodiversity denies? This is just the tip of the iceberg. That boy was born at the start of the epidemic. There will be many more to follow. All the neurodiverse knuckleheads who won't help their kids may well be raising murderers. It's time you jerks woke up to the fact that people with brain damage are laible to do just about anything. That's right, brain damage. That's the most apt description for all autistic spectrum disorders. Lunatics who insist on celebrating this brain damage instead of addressing it are setting society up for a lot more of this aberrant behavior. May the next incident of this type of thing fall on the head of a neurodiverse parent with their head in the clouds instead of an innocent victim who probably knows nothing about this epidemic of brain damage that you idiots want to deny.

The problem is this is what so many people think.
I have heard of many situations where people who are neurodiverse have been put in situations they can't cope with (which their carere should have known they couldn't cope with) and when they say they can't cope or when they ask for help they are ignored. When they finally reach meltdown, they are then just institutionalised! So we are effectively being 'set up' to fail by the system.

Regarding the article above, it doesn't actually give much detail. Did this person have any other relevant issues? Such as paranoid schizophrenia? Hallucinations as a result of psychotropic meds?

Also, far more people are murdered by neuro-typicals, it's just that the headlines never say "Man nurdered by Neuro-Typical"

I wish I know how to change this. I am involved in some disability equality campaigning in my area, but if people believe what the article says, I don't see how I can ever successfully fight against that.

I just never realised before that people really do think that we are just evil. This in combination with the fact that we are set up to fail (and even then this rarely, if ever, leads to murder!) will inly reinforce this image.

I went to a parliamentary meeting on autism and made the point about people with AS(D) being set up to fail due to lack of provision and understanding and the minister representing the government (who want to be able to detain people on the spectrum under the Mental Health Act) didn't even have the curtest to respond.

How can we fight this when people really think we are evil, and no-one cares?

Sorry for above spelling errors. Dyslexic and irlen syndrome. I really do try hard to spell correctly

A bit, Ian? There's a candidate for understatement of the month! Smile

tenaciouscj Wrote:

Timelord, for Sam to have been so constipated, he must not have been "going" for at least a week at a time. It wouldn't have cost his dad much to try giving him some prune juice or other juice or prune puree. There is certainly something seriously wrong to cause such a degree of constipation.

Off the top of my head - and I think I quoted this on Wiki - Sam did "go" but what came out were little balls that were hard as rocks. I agree with what Best could have done there - but that's my point. He put it all down to Sam's Autism and figured the only way to stop that problem was to find a cure for Autism. See the problem?

tenaciouscj Wrote:

I'm not sure of ABA because it's so expensive and so disruptive to the rest of the family.

ABA is one of those treatments that either works or it doesn't. I'm not a fan of it because of it's adversarial nature - but having said that there are worse therapies (ie what the Judge Rotenburg Centre does), and if it works then more power to it. But like all treatments it only works - if at all - on kids.

tenaciouscj Wrote:

Something baffles me too. For a while there, Foresam was very happy about the progress his son was making and then in more recent times, he was talking about institutionalising him. This is despite the much vaunted chelation therapy.

I know. He just refuses to acknowledge that the chelation did nothing more than clear Sam's intestines. Of course Sam benefitted because a major sensory overload was removed (the pain) but Best won't admit to that! The trouble is that it's possible if not likely that the seven years of pain has actually caused Sam some real brain damage. And guess who's fault that is!! Not thiomersal - that's for sure!

That's what I was wondering, Tenacious! What a mess! Makes my own experience look like a Sunday picnic (and that wasn't a botch job BTW).

You have my sympathies, Yetti! And I'm glad I'd finished eating before reading that as well!

Foreskin sam is a dick, everyone knows it by now, and I doubt that Amanda Baggs, Kassiane Sibley, or anyone else, gives a flying crap what he thinks, I feel sorry for his son, if indeed he truly has one, and isn't just stringing us all along for a bunch of *******.

AFF has a bad reputation? since when? I think its great, with the potential to improve the lives of auties worldwide, in a way that THEY benefit from, and is a rare island of cohesion and culture within the autistic community, and those who know autism well, from those close to them.

Alison, what is a 'shiny' aspie?

I'm quite pale, and wear black, no shiny about me xD

He has, afaik, been giving one Amanda Baggs some hell, and possibly Kassiane Sibley also, not sure on that though, I can't imagine the archdaemon of rettdevil's rants taking much *** from him for some reason though xD

Alison Wrote:

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I wasn't assuming anything.��Studies have shown that Aspies *in general* tend to have above-average intelligence.��I'm not saying there's low intelligence Aspies out there; I'm sure there are, just as there are smart NTs.��

I am interested in research - can you show me these studies? Smile

There are low intelligence aspies out there, I've met a couple of aspies who were prize pillocks in my time, but on the whole, going solely from the aspies and auties I actually know in person, on the whole, intelligence is usually quite high.

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