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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piracetam

Many users report autistic-like symptoms (such as increased introverted interests - spending more time with intellectual pursuits than socialising etc).

Discuss.
All drugs put stress on the kidneys, the racetams are no different. I've been taking piracetam for a while now by the way - the effects are quite subtle after the first dose (the first time I took it in a high dose my IQ shot up 30 points overnight on standardised tests). I also found some of my old obsessions much much more interesting again.

There's a whole range of substances which have similar effects, but piracetam (and other racetams) very specifically seem to induce more autistic-type symptoms.
If you are on any medications do not take anything without talking to your doctor, the other thing with the racetams in particular is to make sure you take choline with it (unless you like headaches and naseua).
Why do monastic society encourage their members to develop concentration, avoid unnecesarry conversation and observe silence?  Some even encourage hermitism.  -All for the cause of higher conscienceness.  

Today's society is missing out.
I find this interesting; as I been in to improving my IQ lately (mostly though mental exercise and eating things with omega-3s). It could make NTs that use it more like us, but, of course, it would take alot of NTs for it to have any impact on us.
It's amazing how a lot of NTs are actively trying to think in a more autistic manner while trying to cure autism at the same time. Really amazing.

Gareth Wrote:
It's amazing how a lot of NTs are actively trying to think in a more autistic manner while trying to cure autism at the same time. Really amazing.

It was this cousin I talked to the other day that thought autism = savantism.

The sun is the cause of neurotypicalism, if you remove the sun, there will be no more neurotypicalism.

</gag I stole from the chat>

honestjohn Wrote:
erkolow, great drawing, did you do that?  whoever that is looks identical to my brother when we were youths - and really close to one of my sons - {in other words- good looking, like my family :O) } is that you?  (Asking for curiosity purposes, genetics and all that)

You will find a thread in the Art section called "Self Portrait".

GnosisRoads Wrote:

Gareth Wrote:
All drugs put stress on the kidneys, the racetams are no different. I've been taking piracetam for a while now by the way - the effects are quite subtle after the first dose (the first time I took it in a high dose my IQ shot up 30 points overnight on standardised tests). I also found some of my old obsessions much much more interesting again.

There's a whole range of substances which have similar effects, but piracetam (and other racetams) very specifically seem to induce more autistic-type symptoms.


Gareth, it is recognized that there are disadvantages as well as advantages to having autism. Did you/Do you notice any these disadvantages increasing as well or were the mental effects purely beneficial?


The NTs I have spoken to who take very high doses and have complaints tend to be along the lines of being overwhelmed or suddenly spending all their time working on the new ideas they start generating.

I did notice that piracetam when overdone leads to greater sensitivity in general and I could more easily get sensory overload.

Natalie Wrote:
I've been wanting to give piracetam (or another nootropic) a try lately, to see if it can help me understand statistics or other complex math-type subjects. I am worried, however, that it might aggrevate my anxiety by making my brain exceedingly alert and active.


Try aniracetam + choline bitarate and inositol.
http://www.relentlessimprovement.com are one of the rare online suppliers that are trustworthy for this stuff, you could also try alpha-GPC instead of choline bitarate. If you do end up getting side effects then just don't take it again and of course if you're on any medications always talk to a doctor first.

The sensory overload is not a universal side effect. Piracetam is something that's fairly cheap with no longterm negative side effects (except in RARE cases) so my advice would be to just try it and see what happens. Always ask a doctor's opinion on this kind of thing first though.

As to sensory overload, there's nothing at all wrong with curing sensory overload in itself. That's the same as you can cure testicular cancer without giving a sex change operation. Smile
NHS prescription or importation. Try the site I linked earlier:
http://www.relentlessimprovement.com
Order some alpha-GPC too for the choline (NEVER take piracetam without choline)
Also speak to your doctor first, especially if you are on any other medications.
NHS prescription, you'd need a doctor to prescribe it and then get the prescription filled at a pharmacy.

Wondering1 Wrote:

Gareth Wrote:
NHS prescription, you'd need a doctor to prescribe it and then get the prescription filled at a pharmacy.


I'm curious. What would they prescribe for? Is it by request? It is curious that it is available off the shelf in most countries.


It's normally prescribed for alzheimers, you would be quite lucky to have a doctor prescribe purely because you asked for it.

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