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This site sound familiar to anyone? If it doesn't, it is a SLANDEROUS site that talks about 'how Autism is realy mercury poisoning'. Can you believe the nerve? And get this: they add insult to injury by putting down NOTEWORTHY PEOPLE IN THE NEURODIVERSITY COMMUNITY! It's one thing to disagree with the concept of Neurodiversity, but it's totally another to go and bash popular Neurodiversity figures!

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Is this one of those sites that claim that autism is the result of all of the childhood immunizations?
I was born with AS a long time ago, before those immunizations were even invented.
My father and a couple of his brothers were born with AS even longer ago than that.

If these morons are looking for an excuse to sue somebody, maybe they could go to MacDonalds and pour coffee in their laps.
I swear autism treatment is turning into a religion.

Just because you recieving your blessing, sung the ritual hymns, bowed your head at the right times and the sky didn't fall down. It wasn't the rituals that held it up.

Likewise people now pump kids full of chelatives, go through the usual "treatment" rituals, diets etc, and 5 years later - whaddayaknow, they seem slightly more normal - just like every untreated Autistic/Aspie before them.

rossco

That is one view. Another is to say that desperate parents will if they care for severely autistic children and are faced with the fact that no other treatments are working, will look at alternatives.
Do I agree that mercury poisining is the cause - No. Do I believe there treatments will work - No. Have I got a severely autistic child that doesn't respond to any traditional treatment - No.
I don't think these people are neccessarily monsters but I do think that they are not going to reap the rewards of their efforts and in time they may come to regret their actions. I do not like to think they or their children will suffer.
My little boy is moderately autistic and high functioning. He is responding to prescribed traditional treatments. I am proud of him and consider myself very lucky.
Somebody needs to blam this piece of bullshit off the internet.
It really is a religion...

First they make autism out to be much worse than it actually is.
Then they say that they have the only cure for it.

You're right--It's like saying "The sky is going to fall, but we have the right rituals to prevent it from falling", and then gaining a bunch of followers because lo and behold, the sky didn't fall.

My mom's very into alternative medicine--my sister and I had to suffer through colon-cleansing and seaweed supplements and a jillion and one herbal pills when we were little. I'm just glad I wasn't diagnosed till I was safely out of the house, or I would've been subjected to who knows what torture to get rid of "my autism".
The loons who run the site think chelation is the way to go. Well, these asses ever heard of Abubakar Nadama? HE DIED BECAUSE HIS BODY COULDN'T TAKE ALL THE CHELATIVES THAT WERE NEEDLESSLY PUMPED INTO HIS BODY! Maybe these people should seriously look at themselves. THEY never TRULLY had a kid on the spectrum. DON'T JUDGE TILL YOU HAVE A GOOD PICTURE! How do they KNOW it's Mercury that's causing Autism. THEY DON'T! AND IT ISN'T! GOOD DAY!
There was something about this bunch of deebs ages ago but I shudder to think how many poor kids they've tormented in vain efforts to cure them and how many parents fleeced of money for these spurious treatments.

rossco

Irrespective of whether they get "cured" or not I wonder how many severely and profoundly autistic children are progressing well. If t

there was absolutely no benefit I wonder how many parents would keep doing it?
I think most parents go with it or carry on with it in the hope that it will help and because it is the only thing they can think of and it is the only thing that claims to work. I bet any progress that is noted would have occured naturally but because it happened under this treatment it gives the appearance that the treatment is working. In actually it probably slows down the natural development of the child.

rossco

You could be 100% right Bob. Unfortunately we just don't know. I am trying and will continue to try traditional approaches for my boy. Are they the best for him? I hope so. Would he have been better aided with Chelation or other alternative therapy? Maybe or may be not. The only way we could properly tell is to trial him on one, monitor him improvement/development, rewind the clock back to prior to the therapy trial him on the alternative, monitor him, rewind the clock again, give him no treatment, monitor him, and once all results are in compare them. This presents a huge practical problem and forms the basis for a lot of needless arguement from the pro's and anti's of either camp.
My opinion is simply this, well-meaning people need not neccessarily be agreed with but at least left alone. There are a lot of extremists factions in both camp that should be attacked and done away with by presenting a solid united front, instead of the constant attacking. People like the Anti-NT's and the Pro-Eugenic Abortion factions. Unfortunately these idiots loosely attach themselves to the respective camps and go by almost annoticed in the general in-fighting and fighting between opposal opinions.
We will all by shocked when factions like these manage to grow in power and cause serious harm to the well being of autistics as a whole, yet it will basically be our fault for not exerting undesirable pressure on them now.
Over 20 years ago a friend's mom became sick from what they thought was mercury poisoning from her fillings.  Her problems were neurological, and I can't remember exactly, but the symptoms were that she couldn't talk as well and sort of went into her own world, but she also trembled and slowly lost the ability to move much. We moved away, so I don't know if the final diagnosis was or if she got better or died...

But if there is evidence of SOME kids getting better when mercury is taken out of them, is it possible that there may be something to the mercury thing, only in that those who are effected by poison are merely thought to be autistic because some of the neurological damage it does to their brain MIMICS autistic behaviour?

In other words, some people are born with their brains wired a certain way that is natural and normal to them and others have had their brains damaged by poison. Much in the way that some blindness and deafness is natural and some people lose their sight and hearing because of injury or disease.

The differenc is that most autistics/aspergians who have been born with communication 'impairment' also have talents/gifts/skills that someone with a constant stream of emotional affect would not. So there is a great benefit, when there is education fair treatment, education and understanding.

If that is true, then the problem would then become figuring out which is which and not trying to cure both.

Disclaimer: *still processing all of this and I may not know what I'm talking about*
Sure, it's well known that mercury is bad for people but I think it's a bit ridiculous to say all autism is caused by mercury poisoning. Yet, that's what some of these extreme factions claim.

Ryuujin Wrote:
I swear autism treatment is turning into a religion.

Just because you recieving your blessing, sung the ritual hymns, bowed your head at the right times and the sky didn't fall down. It wasn't the rituals that held it up.

Likewise people now pump kids full of chelatives, go through the usual "treatment" rituals, diets etc, and 5 years later - whaddayaknow, they seem slightly more normal - just like every untreated Autistic/Aspie before them.


The more and more I think about this, the more and more it seems true.

Yes, it's an article of faith that mercury poisoning causes autism. We don't know exactly what causes it but it seems to run in families. These chelation treatments are stupid and just wasting people's money. With autism (unless it's a disintegrative type such as Rett's Disease), there will be a gradual improvement with age in any case.
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