12-16-2006, 04:49 AM
12-16-2006, 08:14 AM
Although of course, since you are an aspie, you will get caught out if you be yourself.
12-16-2006, 08:23 AM
Which one of the two options you go for utterly depends on which one you feel has the lowest risk of you getting caught out.
In my experience I find it very hard to not be myself, and so I would get caught out. But since I am an aspie I would definatly get caught out if I didn't try to act slightly.
Can't you write a stern letter to the board of ed? and forget being nice demand that you don't want the help. Can you get your parents to help you with this?
In my experience I find it very hard to not be myself, and so I would get caught out. But since I am an aspie I would definatly get caught out if I didn't try to act slightly.
Can't you write a stern letter to the board of ed? and forget being nice demand that you don't want the help. Can you get your parents to help you with this?
12-16-2006, 01:48 PM
Just do what you want, Meiloyn..you wanna act NT? act NT, its not like anyone will give a damn 
Ian

Ian
12-19-2006, 11:25 PM
Yeah I would be too shy to do that aswell.
I have never had an aide so I don't know what it is like or how the system works so it is hard to give advice.
I know that if I were in that situation and I really didn't want an aide I would start to completely avoid it as much as I could and I would ignore the problem until it went away. But that never worked and always made things worse, so don't try it.
Not having one may be a big change and not one for the better.
Any positives of having an aide?
I have never had an aide so I don't know what it is like or how the system works so it is hard to give advice.
I know that if I were in that situation and I really didn't want an aide I would start to completely avoid it as much as I could and I would ignore the problem until it went away. But that never worked and always made things worse, so don't try it.
Not having one may be a big change and not one for the better.
Any positives of having an aide?
12-21-2006, 01:46 PM
Tell the school system, Your parrents, Your teachers, That the system is screwed and you demand removal, Ya gotta fight for your rights.
12-24-2006, 07:11 PM
hey, i've gone through the exact same thing. Ask anybody here.
I know exactly how you feel, cause I had a 504 plan till 9th grade and I clearly did not need it. I mean..we didnt even use it..at all.. It was the stupiest piece of crap i ever seen.
What you need to do is look up a copy of the DSM criteria and see how you fair agaisnt it. How many things do you fit in the criteria? If you do not fill the required amount of things, you do not have asperger's. simple as that. And thats what you need to argue.
The most important things though are to give eye contact, understand body language, and have friends. If you do or have these three things you should be ok. And if you dont then get on it!
And start doing 'normal' things for the time being if need to be. Start reading some girl magagzines and state that a FRIEND is leanding it to you, you can pretend to read it though. And start calling people over. Basically look like you have a normal social life.
And during the evaluation if the doctor asks to have a word alone with your parents then say NO, and your reasin is that anything they have to say about me is to be said while im here. To make sure they dont lie and then you can counteractt any piece of crap they say.
i've been throught the same thing before, pm me if you want some more info.
I know exactly how you feel, cause I had a 504 plan till 9th grade and I clearly did not need it. I mean..we didnt even use it..at all.. It was the stupiest piece of crap i ever seen.
What you need to do is look up a copy of the DSM criteria and see how you fair agaisnt it. How many things do you fit in the criteria? If you do not fill the required amount of things, you do not have asperger's. simple as that. And thats what you need to argue.
The most important things though are to give eye contact, understand body language, and have friends. If you do or have these three things you should be ok. And if you dont then get on it!
And start doing 'normal' things for the time being if need to be. Start reading some girl magagzines and state that a FRIEND is leanding it to you, you can pretend to read it though. And start calling people over. Basically look like you have a normal social life.
And during the evaluation if the doctor asks to have a word alone with your parents then say NO, and your reasin is that anything they have to say about me is to be said while im here. To make sure they dont lie and then you can counteractt any piece of crap they say.
i've been throught the same thing before, pm me if you want some more info.
12-25-2006, 12:41 AM
Meiloyn's situation is slightly different to your's SoccerFreak.
IIRC you were misdiagnosed as AS even though you are ADHD, whereas Meiloyn was correctly diagnosed as AS but she doesn't want an aide so to stop having one she wants to be undiagnosed as AS.
I am sorry if I have taken anything the wrong way, though I believe your advise may be highly useful to her.
IIRC you were misdiagnosed as AS even though you are ADHD, whereas Meiloyn was correctly diagnosed as AS but she doesn't want an aide so to stop having one she wants to be undiagnosed as AS.
I am sorry if I have taken anything the wrong way, though I believe your advise may be highly useful to her.
rossco
12-28-2006, 01:14 PM
There is another alternative. Maybe for reasons that you can't see, maybe the aide and so on is actually for your benefit and may benefit you later. I am not saying you are completely invalidated by this, but just maybe your parents, teacher, etc could have reasons that they haven't let on to you why the current status quo is good for your school-age development.
I am getting my boy aide time and all kinds of support frameworks in place for next year. We are moving to the other side of the country at the start of next year for this purpose.
I would hate to think in three years time he would be in the same position as you and not understand the importance of the support structures we have in place and worse still not feeling ok to talk to his mother and me about it.
I am getting my boy aide time and all kinds of support frameworks in place for next year. We are moving to the other side of the country at the start of next year for this purpose.
I would hate to think in three years time he would be in the same position as you and not understand the importance of the support structures we have in place and worse still not feeling ok to talk to his mother and me about it.
12-28-2006, 05:53 PM
Meiloyn Wrote:
I feel as though the services given to me due to my diagnosis are actually hindering me
I Make User Of Them
- No Timed Tests
- And i get to sit in back of auditoriums even if the rst of the group is in the front
- ect....
Being An Aspie Has It's Upsides

And It's Down Sides
My Mom Has to Help Me Have A Conversation(I Think Of Her As A Bodylanguage Trasalator :LOL:, Well She Is A German To English Transalater)
Note: I Have NEVER Been In A Public School Setting So I Dont Know What It Is Like
12-29-2006, 01:05 AM
They shouldn't be able to critisise you on your organisational skills. At least you have some.
My organisational skill consisted of not removing anything from my bag (it was really heavy, since it had about 25 books in it). Usually by the time I had found the stuff I needed for a lesson, it was already nearly over.
My bag was dubbed 'the bag of no return' mainly because anything that went in rarely came back out, and if it did the thing was horribly mangled.
My organisational skill consisted of not removing anything from my bag (it was really heavy, since it had about 25 books in it). Usually by the time I had found the stuff I needed for a lesson, it was already nearly over.
My bag was dubbed 'the bag of no return' mainly because anything that went in rarely came back out, and if it did the thing was horribly mangled.
rossco
12-29-2006, 02:57 PM
Meiloyn
I'm really sorry! I re-read my post and I sounded sooo..patronising and righteous! OMG. I really didn't want this to come across. You absolutely have a right to be concerned and yes you as an autistic (on the spectrum) person ought to have input into how your condition is managed, if at all. *** hell! Did I sound like I was saying "Hey you're 13. LIsten to what your parents and teachers say!" CRINGE! OK I have read your posts and seen your photo and I naturally assumed you were an average 16 - 17yr old Aspie. What I was trying to say (and take into account I NEEDED support which I didn't get through schooling - I was considered *** and basically written off academically by teachers and dropkick parents, but also I have a little HFA boy who is nearly 10 who needs a lot of support that his mother and I are getting for him.) Please don't judge me too severely here.
You have a right to demand what your future brings you. If you are like me you will want to stabilise and secure the elements of your environment as much as possible to be able to control and direct your life to where it goes to. That is natural. I understand it. What I was I trying to say (VERY, VERY badly) is check in on those other elements (School, Parents, Board of Ed, Aide) as a mature teenage woman. Don't go in defiantly or submissively but assertively. More "Hey these are my concerns. Are they justified? If not, why not? This is what I want, how can you help me achieve this?"
As to masking or adapting to NT way of doing things, absolutely - do it. NTs are 99.5% of the population and adapting to them is far better than waiting or expecting them to adapt to us (regardless of the "just be yourself" rhetoric). At the same time if you occasssionally do something autistic, who cares you are and always will be autistic so you have done what you can and shouldn't feel bad. Hard to manage when you are younger but believe me by the time you are old like me it is "So what? Who cares? I am too old to change and too old to care! I am old too - turned 36 in November. LOL.
I'm really sorry! I re-read my post and I sounded sooo..patronising and righteous! OMG. I really didn't want this to come across. You absolutely have a right to be concerned and yes you as an autistic (on the spectrum) person ought to have input into how your condition is managed, if at all. *** hell! Did I sound like I was saying "Hey you're 13. LIsten to what your parents and teachers say!" CRINGE! OK I have read your posts and seen your photo and I naturally assumed you were an average 16 - 17yr old Aspie. What I was trying to say (and take into account I NEEDED support which I didn't get through schooling - I was considered *** and basically written off academically by teachers and dropkick parents, but also I have a little HFA boy who is nearly 10 who needs a lot of support that his mother and I are getting for him.) Please don't judge me too severely here.
You have a right to demand what your future brings you. If you are like me you will want to stabilise and secure the elements of your environment as much as possible to be able to control and direct your life to where it goes to. That is natural. I understand it. What I was I trying to say (VERY, VERY badly) is check in on those other elements (School, Parents, Board of Ed, Aide) as a mature teenage woman. Don't go in defiantly or submissively but assertively. More "Hey these are my concerns. Are they justified? If not, why not? This is what I want, how can you help me achieve this?"
As to masking or adapting to NT way of doing things, absolutely - do it. NTs are 99.5% of the population and adapting to them is far better than waiting or expecting them to adapt to us (regardless of the "just be yourself" rhetoric). At the same time if you occasssionally do something autistic, who cares you are and always will be autistic so you have done what you can and shouldn't feel bad. Hard to manage when you are younger but believe me by the time you are old like me it is "So what? Who cares? I am too old to change and too old to care! I am old too - turned 36 in November. LOL.
01-14-2007, 07:53 PM
Make your parents your advocates. Get them to beat the school system into submission. You're right, the school probably won't listen to you if they haven't by now. So get your parents involved. Get some of those accomodations removed because it doesn't sound like you really need them now.
But don't get rid of your diagnosis. It can be useful and you'll be going into high school which can be hell. So keep the diagnosis for accomodations you may still need in future, but get your parents to have the IEP rewritten and get the ones that are hindering you off your IEP.
But don't get rid of your diagnosis. It can be useful and you'll be going into high school which can be hell. So keep the diagnosis for accomodations you may still need in future, but get your parents to have the IEP rewritten and get the ones that are hindering you off your IEP.
01-14-2007, 08:49 PM
I dont think you need an aide, I dont really know you but the way you talk and sound like you handle yourself well most likely means you dont need an aide at all. I just want to go to your school and slap all their faces off! Just the way you make them sound just pisses me off. I feel for you.
And are they kidding?! The hallway is too crowed for you! thats just ridiculous and i think an insult to you. Seriously, no one gets lost in the school, omg. I know some kids who are lower functioning than you and they go to their classes by themselves, sure an aide comes in later but at least they are allowed to roam the halls.
Does your aide sit with you at lunch? Cause that would really suck..alot.
And are they kidding?! The hallway is too crowed for you! thats just ridiculous and i think an insult to you. Seriously, no one gets lost in the school, omg. I know some kids who are lower functioning than you and they go to their classes by themselves, sure an aide comes in later but at least they are allowed to roam the halls.
Does your aide sit with you at lunch? Cause that would really suck..alot.
03-07-2007, 09:54 PM
richardL: your so welcome 
