Aspies For Freedom

The problem is, NT's by nature, don't usually seem to care to find out about us. They offer all sorts of ways you can learn how to adapt to them, but they certainly are not committed to adapting back.

This shows that NT's (in my opinion) think of themselves as the superiors. They think they have superior thinking and THEREFORE  all others much reach up (or down) to their f*cked up standards. Apologies for the lewdness but I thought it was artful and made the proper point, to use it in that sentence.

You're disregarding the Aspies that are very poor in school, though.  As if you think Aspies are "naturally better" in academics than NTs are.  If people like me are proof, that's just another annoying stereotype.

4. I am afraid/disgusted of/with procreation.

I don't want to hear about it, period. It turns people into objects and is rather unpleasant to me. It also brings people into the world forcefully. I don't believe this planet is suited for anymore lives to be brought into it. The ratio of suffering is far too great in my eyes. All in all, it's just bad news to me. You can like it all you want, but keep it to yourself please.

I was shocked in school: what? People find this algebra stuff difficult?

And NTs wonder.... what? they find relationships challenging?

A great many HRs would rather hire a second or third rate person, an NT they can relate to, rather than a first rate person, if it is an Aspie they can't relate to (or if it takes "too much trouble" to learn to relate, better rephrased)

If you can't relate to an NT, you're disabled, you're unemployed, it's your fault.
If an NT can't relate to you, he or she is normal, he or she is employed, it isn't his or her fault (but it is)

Someone in another thread raised the idea that NTs who are great at Math must have similar neural wiring to autistics.  There is no solid proof to support this idea, however, and I personally feel that it's complete bunk.

After all, the majority of engineers, scientists, math teachers, etc, are NT.  Gifted NT, but NT nonetheless.

You can have a gifted AS who excels in all things literary but totally sucks at Math, but that does not make them any "less autistic."  I know plenty of such individuals on AFF.  And you can have a gifted NT who doesn't much care for the arts and humanities but is passionate about math and science, and that does not make them "autistic-like."

Please, can we cut the cord on the "Math is the autistic way" statement?

Coming off as such.

Well, it is part of the argument, Pakrat.... we have to presume that <10% of NTs have computer talent.  How many?  Why does it seem to NTs that Aspies are so special?

Breeze...... if your husband comes from the "general population", EvilZakkie might suggest he is a rare kind of man, a rare breed.

Of course, simply because a greater percentage of Aspies than NTs have computer aptitude does not mean that they will be reflected in every office.  Corporate culture still has an awful lot of Mr. Slates still "hav[ing] a gay old time" in the Stone Age of human resources.

I stay where I am at because I realize many computer-age companies have Stone Age cultures with respect to Aspies.  If you find a modern culture that respects Aspies, stay put.  Don't worry about the money.  Exactly what is a million dollars a year worth if they fire your *** in a week if they don't like your kind?

$20,000.  But you see what I mean in general terms.

B"H

Ladies and Gentlemen:

I have but one thing to really say.  I believe that we are all very unique, and should be.  There are no two human beings the same, or the world would be incomplete somehow.  For myself, I am good with mathematics, but not so much with computers.  A lot of you would consider things that I struggle with in the computer realm to be very basic.  I am good with science, but not so much with getting my...uh...bottom, let's say, out of a paper bag.  I am also not good with languages, at least so far.  I am good with history, having gotten my degree in it.  

Let me tell you about my story, just a little bit.  I was originally given a diagnosis other than Asperger, a while ago.  However, part of the diagnosis was based on the fact that there were two Standard deviation differences between one aspect of my intelligence and another.  I was given a weird kind of IQ test, one that I frankly think now was somewhat fraudulent.  I think that the psychologist who gave me the test was probably self-interested somehow, although I can't prove that.

The diagnosis turned out to be less than accurate.  However, I was recently diagnosed with "Asperger," a term I consider problematic for certain reasons (how I wish old Doctor Asperger had chosen his political affiliations wisely!).  As I understand Asperger, it too can be diagnosed with the "two standard deviations difference" test, or roughly 30 IQ points difference between the more theoretical aspects of one's intelligence and the more practical aspects of one's intelligence.  

I believe that the original modified IQ test might have been basically accurate, even if the conditions might have been set up to exaggerate the discrepancy to the "two standard deviations mark".  Maybe the difference is 20 points, or something like that. The point is there *IS* a difference between my theoretical intelligence and certain other areas in which I have profound deficiencies.  Frankly, I am not even sure about all of this "high functioning" business sometimes.  And yet, there are certain gifts that have come with all of this, gifts that I would not trade in for "normalcy" even if I could.

I can factor license plates in to prime numbers pretty well.  I have gotten good at it.  I do a little victory jig when I get Sphenic Numbers.  For instance, one address was 1246 **** Road, and I got 2, 7, 89.  My heart leapt!  Why do I do this?  Well...do I really have to answer?  However, other things are more difficult.  Sometimes simple things are very difficult.

So, can we generalize here?  And, more poignantly, should we allow low self-esteem to be a point of attack against others?  We need to understand that we are less of a unified community and more of an amalgamation of different types of people who have one thing in common, a certain deviation, not so much from "society" as within ourselves.  That is a split that only we can make whole, not by conforming to the world, but by finding wholeness within ourselves.  I call for a moratorium on all comparisons with others, even being "equal."  I think that it would be best.

Thank you.  All the best.