I checked out the autism and pychology forum read there that some want to change Asperger's to be classified as a mental disorder a 'mood disorder', what they going to do change the wiring in our brains?
that doesn't make sense, what about the other problems, are they all supposed to be related to mood ?
I am not taking any mood stabilising drugs because my mood is quite stable. I might rip there heads off when I have PMS and they tell me I have a mood disorder, if they catch me before pay day I calmly tell them why I do not need mood stabilising drugs but perhaps they could refer me to a gynaecologist. Lol
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i think it is quite possible to have aspergers and a mood disorder but more that the mood disorder is related to the aspergers, ie for when things go wrong or one doesn't understand and anxiety, also i think i may be what is called pre menopausal, i am 45.
I quite like my natural hormones it is the stress and anxiety that makes me flip out longer with PMS (not to mention lack of routine).
yes. interruptions throw me. and when things don't work as i think they should.
My PMS starts around 23rd of a month (pay day) and lasts a week if I am lucky, 3 weeks if I am not. Always changes when I get my period.
do you feel better or worse then ?
I want some of the hormones that make me feel fanstastic, sexy, gorgeous, clear headed, horny, highly sexually charged (he he!), intelligent, less forgetful and calm, after pay day. Estregen???? (probably spelt that wrong).
think its oestrogen, might be wrong on that but it written with an o. i have no idea if that would help.
I was fat, horrible, depressed, miserable, had no sex drive, 'dim', indifferent when I was on deporavera/mini-pill. The combi-pilled makes me 'stable all month' but I don't get that fantastic feeling like I do with my natural hormones. I am not keen on messing with nature anymore, rather look at diet, strategies and reducing my stress.
yes, that makes sense.
I hope this is not too personal a question but what is your sexual orientation?
Feeling like the opposite gender trapped in your current body is commonly reported amongst transgendered individuals and homosexuals. If this is caused by testostrone it would explain the higher than average number of lesbians and female-to-male transexuals on the spectrum. However, we also have a higher than normal percentage of male-to-female transexuals and homosexual men.
As a research subject this would be interesting to look at simply by blood tests of women on and off the spectrum and would be quite simple to do. I fear though that it could have obvious abuses by the curebies.
i would like to answer this one too. i am female and hetrosexual but not feminine in the way nt females are (or the way i perceive them to be). the male brain bit is more i don't react the same way other females would in the same situation ( i think), i probably don't even perceive the situation the same way and my interests are different. some years ago i did a test, i've forgotten what its called now, but i scored as being more male than my then male partner did. i don't feel trapped in my body but more that my body (being female) seems to mean i am to behave, think and feel in certain ways, which i don't. my ex husband once complained that i never sought out physical contact, which was true but also a bit of a shocker, it had simply never occured to me that i ought to and that i didn't. that has changed a bit with time but it is basically still true and i think that kind of trait is more asscociated with males than females. in autism i think what is the case is that both sexes may have that trait (not always because i can and do swing to the other extreme at times too), it is part of autism, but in females its more problematic/noticable and perhaps even seen as a fault.
it is all very good advice, i prpbably do not eat as well as i should and often skip meals which does not help. otoh i find often if i eat i crash, get very tired and lethargic, so often i avoid eating to avoid that. i am though going to look into that sulphite thing as i have noticed sometimes odd rashes, and some red wines knock me out just after a glassful and i get headaches, i don't get that with white wine. i also use sweetners, do not get cravings for sweets per se but think it's more related to blood sugar. i don't use a lot of preserved foodstuffs, i generally only buy tinned beans and tinned tomatoes.
i think this could be true. i went to the doctors the other day, and for some reason, there is hair on my chin, and like bunches of them. also have lots of hair on my arms and legs, alot thicker than most girls, the doctor suspected i have higher levels of testerostone. i also tend to spend more time with boys than girls and relate better to boys. so the male brain theory i think is valid, as i'm more into boy things than the average woman, like video games, but i still have some feminne things in tact, like dressing up at times, but i never got the ritual of sleepovers and the female magazine quizzes.
something i just thought about, you think autistics are more likely to be homosexual than nt's? that would be an intersting study. i'm heterosexual btw.
I am a woman diagnosed with AS, and I have always found I definitely have feminine feelings, and like to dress up nice etc...but one thing I feel differently is, like men, I don't really like having a man over me. I tend to have this feeling deep down that I'd rather settle things with a good duking it out. However the way I was brought up, both religiously and culturally, I hold back. Yet deep down, when a man wants to treat me like a little woman, a little thing that should look up to him, and enjoy his authority, and be told what to do, or to take care of him and be all soft and sweet and caring, I like to care, but I don't like to turn into a slave, I really don't enjoy it, it annoys me, it makes me really irritated if I don't get equal attention, and deep down, I just want to have a fight with him if he thinks he's my boss, a real good fist fight, until I win. Then....relief, I'm in charge.
I feel that even if I didn't win, or knew I wouldn't (like if the guy was really big and stalky) I STILL would want to give my attempts at fighting back. But I haven't done it yet, and believe me, it's not because I feel afraid. In fact, the thing I'm most afraid of, is hurting someone. True I don't want to get hurt either, but I'm just so afraid of going too far, and not knowing my limits.
so I just don't do it. And it feels really hard sometimes, and I know I always wanted to do it.
Other than that, I have all the female feelings. I really do have a lot of love and care in me. I just have one quirk, and that's that I don't like anyone being an authority over me. It REALLY ticks me off. I have trouble with it. I want everyone to AT least act equal, so that I don't get any further temptations to duke it out. Sometimes it's VERY hard.
Applaud me for never being violent, and having never in my whole life been in any fist fights. Please applaud me, because it's VERY hard to hold back, and I know that I've done something phenomenal, going against my own feelings for a whole lifetime!
-Deborah
A lot of stuff in this thread pretty much sums me up. I am a straight female (and despite those statisitics you always read about, I have never even been curious about having a same-sex encounter), but I think a lot of the time when people first meet me, they are certain I am a lesbian.
I have a pretty low, kind of masculine voice, and my speech patterns tend to resemble a male's more than a female's (by female I mean the typical giggly, "omg rly?" NT female). I wear big (usually black) hoodies, blue jeans, and my favorite beanie every day, and you'll never catch me in a skirt or dress. I love playing videogames like Final Fantasy and Grand Theft Auto (I like blowing things up in it and yelling rather masculine things like "Yeah! That was **** awesome, man!"). I think Jackass is God's gift to the world.
Most of my friends are guys, though I must admit, I am way more manly than a lot of the guys I know. That's not to say I'm not feminine at all. I like looking good... I like wearing a bit of make-up and I wear girls jeans to show off my curves (I think I have a nice ***). I like my lips too, and I wear chapstick to make them shiny (lip gloss and lipstick are a bit over the top for me). I also have a lot of piercings in my ears, and I like the way earrings look, and I have an awesome antique ring I wear every day.
Hi, I'm relieved that I'm not the only one with the authority issue.
I guess I am like tenaciouscj and Natalie in that, I can't stand listening to stupid ideas. But I have found once or twice, some amazingly wise and brilliant men which I felt honored to listen to, because I thought they exceeded all my expectations of what a leader should be like. But most, disappoint me. If all it's about is control, for no other reason than, "because they want it" then that's a big turnoff for me.
By the way Natalie, I go to the gym a lot, and what I'd say is, I'm curvy too but, I learned that I have a "beautiful" punch because I took a boxercise class with instructors who actually boxed in competitions. Anyway, it wasn't important to me, but I guess that's just how I am. I got some power there. However, maybe it's just instinct that, if you have some strength, you aren't as afraid? Some times there are things you just "know" in yourself.
If you want to know how to get stronger, you should do lots of aerobics, because once you get your cardio up, your strength comes with it, and instructors usually tack some weight training at the end of those classes, so, you end up doing a little each time without it being too boring. Just getting a little bit in shape is really motivating. You just wont more and more.
If you are Aspie, you'll do it for the routine of it all. You'll go everyday no matter how much you hate it, jut because you have it in your schedule and like things to happen the same way all the time.
Trust me, it works really well if you think that way!
-Deboah
Hi, I have a question that might handle some of this. It's one of those questions that might make people upset. Now, if you look into it, there are certain personalities that go with alcoholism. If a person can't get off alcohol, due to a deep character flaw, then obviously can't it be the same with other eccentric behaviors? I learned that at the YMCA when taking a course through adults recovering from mental illness. The alcoholics usually fall into their trap due to being a passive aggressive. I'm not saying that all people who are passive aggressive fall into that particular trap. We know that certain personalities are a big and probably central cause to certain behaviors. Some people can for example, start up a smoking habit, a drinking habit, and possibly other bad habits, and quit anytime, and not go back. Myself for example, I could try anything, and not get addicted. And I mean it. I really can't get addicted. But some people have more addictive personalities, where a certain weakness in their particular mix, causes them to fall into a trap with something harmful or wrong, or sometimes self destructive or even destructive to humanity (such as serial killing). Yet, there is a commonality to all of these problems, even if we take light of someone lying as opposed to someone murdering. They are both weaknesses of the flesh, as the bible would call it. They are both sins. Now, when it comes to sins that people want to love the person, but look that other way so as to not hurt the person, society has labeled these sins as not sins anymore. The test is, when people have to overcome one of these. You will find that an alcoholic has a rough time stopping. I mean ROUGH. And same with drug abuse. There is a LOT more to it than just a substance being used and a habit formed. Habits can be broken with a little direction, and some making up of the mind. However when a person IS and alcoholic, not just a person who drinks, but their whole being is now alcohol, they will start to defend it. Society thinks, with little forethought as to the effects of some of these habits and behaviors. Maybe being drunk would be OK if people didn't end up getting violent, abusing people, getting killed in car accidents etc...So a drinking disorder is deemed bad, and should be done with caution. Lying, to a degree is ok as long as it's for a good cause. But lying can be punishable by law in other cases. Why don't we say that God is Aspie, because his rules are very black and white and very honest. Lying IS lying, murder IS murder (in the New testament because he is no longer getting his people to kill for the sake of having a land and a peaceful place to live or to have the law upheld in cases such as men lying with men or adultery). Yet all of those things are sin. You can't say that the children of a gay marriage might end up REALLY confused, just because they might be brought up to be all accepting of every kind of relationship, and they might actually feel instinctively, on the inside, like those things are extremely wrong and perverse, and yet not realize to express it since they were taught that being gay is OK. But really there are people who feel that on the INSIDE INNATELY, and those are the majority of people, actually. What I'm saying in a round about way is, my theory is that people who have these weaknesses, can fall into traps which feel very good and very normal to them, but they really are destructive, in the long run. Mankind wants to think for himself he has too much pride to believe that a god figured it out before him, and set down some wisdom, BUT that's people for you! You can't tell them ANYTHING! But they find out! The fact is, I think that Aspies can fall into that trap if they have some imbalances, and it might feel good and right, HOWEVER be aware that it can hurt society, especially yours and other people's children. WE know we have some problems, and we want to be loved and made a part of things, but we are not actually really that normal. I like who I am, but I feel sad that I don't get it, what people mean, and that I, and ONLY I get hurt in the end, and everyone else blames me. Yes it is a trial, but, one thing is, you have to trust that these things that people think they are, which were deemed as sins, really ARE a threat to the health of society as a whole, and will impact people you love in wrong ways, and I've observed and tested many of the biblical things against real life, and yes indeed, the bible sure is a good source of wise information, to be used and not just treated like an ancient text book. Now I don't worship the bible, I don't think it's the authority, and I do believe in God and mercy, but I can't judge people. I won't judge, all I can say is, you know God's feelings on bi-sexuality, it's very obvious in the old testament...he ordered them put to death. Now that law is NOT in effect anymore, we don't put sinners to death anymore like that, except maybe in some places they still have capital punishments, but I'm saying, the lesson is that we HAVE to overcome it. Not accept it, invite it in, and start thinking that's what we ARE. Because an alcoholic thinks he or she cannot depart from their way, a *** seems to think they cannot resist being promiscuous, a neat freak can't seem to understand that they CAN be messy, a bulimic seems to think they cannot live and be slim without vomiting, and these are DEEP problems, but they should be viewed as problems that need to be dealt with within each person, and people should be HELPFUL, not judgmental. and justify sin either. Christ came to heal sinners, not condemn them! And that's what it is. People who out and stand up for their rights when they feel people are not caring and are hurting them over their weaknesses! It's wrong for people to treat other people badly for having a problem, too, by the way. But it's not right to say that it's all ok, just because those people are so fed up that, they want to be accepted for how they are, because they are too tired and find it too hard to change! People should be helping, not putting pressure on others to change. They should be making life more accessible for all! and helping people overcome their weaknesses. We live in such an exploitative world, the weak people feel like they have to go out and be REDICULOUS in order to make their point, and be loved, and to survive! I'm sorry to be so black and white, but I really do loook at all angles, and my opinion that at the end of the day, God is right, or at least, whoever put together all the bible writings, they had it together! If you are biologically a woman, then how does it work to try to be a man? I mean how can it work to have sex with women? Will you be able to have children? NO. It doesn't work. We aren't made to "get together" in that way. Even if we are inclined to, for the sake of pleasure, logically, it is dysfunctional. Sex in the end of the say, is actually designed to motivate us to have babies, that was the whole intent behind it! I mean, come on. It's really just people lusting, and being perverse, in ways that don't really work with how we are made. And no we have evolved YET into something else, and don't hold your breath! And if you have a grande imagination, and a world of people trying it out, it doens't mean that it's normal. The test is, can you have children together today as in NOW without any medicines or surgeries or technology by being with someone of the same sex? That answer is NO, without any outside aid, if you decided to be a couple, and wanted to bare a child, it's not going to happen THAT WAY. No. So there, and I know that's not the only dimension to a relationship, but most people feel it really is the core. We are designed to be attracted to each other for the sake of procreating. This is why we end up falling in love with a partner. If you think of it the other way, if no one fell in love or felt physical attraction, I guess humans would go instinct. I mean, besides the whole beauty of it, love HAS a purpose. It's to have a family. So I mean, it's a simple thing. Watch nature. I watched this show about these cute little penguins, and when they pair up, they look like people! They act like people too! They stand together looking into each others eyes, they get all cuddling, they snuggle, they look like they are in love, and then the next part happens, the male initiates it but then another feeling kicks in right after the lovey dovey, the SEXUAL. the love seems to be an intro feeling into the sexual. So love and sex are connected. They are not the same emotion, but they connect. If it's a mother child thing, well the love is more of a protective love it's not a desiring love. But you know, in the end, it's all in the right order. If the penguin females and males changed and all went after their own sex, there would be no baby penguins, and that would make me sad, because they are so adorable! So I mean, it's a really obvious thing. It is abnormal to lust after the same sex. If we were designed that way, they we would be able to have babies too. Everything would work in harmony in a big circle. But obviously if you have it the other way, you get a few things NOT working right or in balance and you end up having a dysfunctional relationship, EVEN if you like it. Liking it has nothing to do with it. You might enjoy it until you die, but you'll know the limitations, and the possible harms too. I apologize for hurting anyone in advance, and I mean well, in the best possible way! but this is more like, an educated opinion, and I'm sorry, but that's just how I see it.