11-07-2006, 03:47 PM
11-20-2006, 10:01 PM
http://www.vh1auctions.com/cgi-bin/auct ion.cgi?action=ShowPage&page=entrypage.html
Meh, I hope the link works.
"The evil ignorance flows through veins
Taking corrupted knowledge with it.
If you say I am diseased,
Then about you I don't give a sh-t."
-- me
Meh, I hope the link works.
"The evil ignorance flows through veins
Taking corrupted knowledge with it.
If you say I am diseased,
Then about you I don't give a sh-t."
-- me
11-28-2006, 06:47 PM
I think this is the same issue I started a thread about in the general section. I have written a letter to member of one band and sent a copy to their manager. Whether the guy cares anything about people with autism is one thing but at least he cares about animals. He is a member of PETA and probably does not know about animal research being funded by CAN. Now every time I hear about a band giving money to CAN, I am going to write a letter or protest.
11-28-2006, 08:10 PM
I just got off the phone with said band's managemant company hoping to get an email address of their manager. (M has PMed me privately about this).
They now have my email address and I am awaiting a response in order to express our views. On a related note, perhaps PETA could be made directly aware of CAN's animal research.
p.s note to self - dyspraxia + bad quality SIP connection via dodgy US phone lines is not a good combination
They now have my email address and I am awaiting a response in order to express our views. On a related note, perhaps PETA could be made directly aware of CAN's animal research.
p.s note to self - dyspraxia + bad quality SIP connection via dodgy US phone lines is not a good combination
11-29-2006, 09:02 PM
PETA has a list of charities that fund animal testing and ones that do not.
CAN is on their "do not give to" list.
http://www.humaneseal.org/search.php?q=Autism
STILL FUNDING animal experiments: “autism”
* Autism Research Institute
4182 Adams Ave
San Diego, CA 92116
619-218-7165
www. autismwebsite.com
* Cure Autism Now
5455 Wilshire Blvd.
Ste. 715
Los Angeles, CA 90036-4234
888-828-8476
www. cureautismnow.org
* National Alliance for Autism Research
99 Wall St.
Research Park
Princeton, NJ 08540
888-777-NAAR
naar@naar.org
www. naar.org
CAN is on their "do not give to" list.
http://www.humaneseal.org/search.php?q=Autism
STILL FUNDING animal experiments: “autism”
* Autism Research Institute
4182 Adams Ave
San Diego, CA 92116
619-218-7165
www. autismwebsite.com
* Cure Autism Now
5455 Wilshire Blvd.
Ste. 715
Los Angeles, CA 90036-4234
888-828-8476
www. cureautismnow.org
* National Alliance for Autism Research
99 Wall St.
Research Park
Princeton, NJ 08540
888-777-NAAR
naar@naar.org
www. naar.org
12-06-2006, 08:22 PM
I have been writing to bands that do benefits for Cure Autism Now - but this is retroactive. Might we write to bands and ask them to do benefits for Anti-bullying charities? I do not know of any charity that promotes positive attitudes towards autism. Can someone suggest one? Or should we just start writing to everyone and ask them not to support Cure Autism Now?
It hardly seems fair to just picket every CAN event without even considering that most people think it is good cause.
It hardly seems fair to just picket every CAN event without even considering that most people think it is good cause.
12-06-2006, 09:56 PM
I went to an art exhibit in Toronto (Lonsdale gallery) that was very positive and speaking out against prejudice that people with autism experience. Many different people from the autism community participated: people with autism, parents, professionals, doctors, etc. I am wondering if they have some kind of organization.
12-06-2006, 09:59 PM
Here it is. http://www.taaproject.com/index.cfm Can we check this out? Maybe we can work with this group and create more positive projects in places all around the world?
12-30-2006, 03:19 PM
I think that the CAN auction disappeared from the Vh1 Auctions site. ither some of you wrote in, or they held the darn auction and now CAN's counting their dollars. >_<;;;;;
12-30-2006, 05:36 PM
The auction is over and raised about $60,000. That is $50,000 to fund another monkey torture experiment for a year with $10,000 left over for something else. Strangely, people who supported this auction thought the money was for children with autism.
01-01-2007, 08:58 PM
M Wrote:
The auction is over and raised about $60,000.  That is $50,000 to fund another monkey torture experiment for a year with $10,000 left over for something else.  Strangely, people who supported this auction thought the money was for children with autism.
CAN tortures monkeys?
01-04-2007, 02:10 PM
CAN funds animal studies. Some use rats and one institution experiments on monkeys. I have to laugh at these illiterate luddites that insist that what I say about CAN is not true. All the research studies they fund, complete with names of researchers and their institutions and how much funding each receives is available on the CAN website. They also have brief descriptions of the experiments and studies themselves.
The monkey study does not have a complete description of exactly how the monkeys are treated. It says that they are shown a film and then their brain responses are measured. Human volunteers could be used for these types of studies instead of animals. How does one ask a monkey to watch a film. It probably involves restraining the monkey. Then how is the brain response measured? - by putting electrodes on the monkey's head or by taking blood samples or by killing and dissecting the monkey's brain? (the latter is done to the rats)? Again, how can one ask a monkey for a blood sample or put electrodes on them without restraining them. It is all just sick to me.
The monkey study does not have a complete description of exactly how the monkeys are treated. It says that they are shown a film and then their brain responses are measured. Human volunteers could be used for these types of studies instead of animals. How does one ask a monkey to watch a film. It probably involves restraining the monkey. Then how is the brain response measured? - by putting electrodes on the monkey's head or by taking blood samples or by killing and dissecting the monkey's brain? (the latter is done to the rats)? Again, how can one ask a monkey for a blood sample or put electrodes on them without restraining them. It is all just sick to me.
01-06-2007, 04:07 AM
M Wrote:
CAN funds animal studies.  Some use rats and one institution experiments on monkeys.  I have to laugh at these illiterate luddites that insist that what I say about CAN is not true.  All the research studies they fund, complete with names of researchers and their institutions and how much funding each receives is available on the CAN website.  They also have brief descriptions of the experiments and studies themselves. Â
The monkey study does not have a complete description of exactly how the monkeys are treated.  It says that they are shown a film and then their brain responses are measured.  Human volunteers could be used for these types of studies instead of animals.  How does one ask a monkey to watch a film.  It probably involves restraining the monkey.  Then how is the brain response measured? - by putting electrodes on the monkey's  head or by taking blood samples or by killing and dissecting the monkey's brain? (the latter is done to the rats)?  Again, how can one ask a monkey for a blood sample or put electrodes on them without restraining them.  It is all just sick to me.
The monkey study does not have a complete description of exactly how the monkeys are treated.  It says that they are shown a film and then their brain responses are measured.  Human volunteers could be used for these types of studies instead of animals.  How does one ask a monkey to watch a film.  It probably involves restraining the monkey.  Then how is the brain response measured? - by putting electrodes on the monkey's  head or by taking blood samples or by killing and dissecting the monkey's brain? (the latter is done to the rats)?  Again, how can one ask a monkey for a blood sample or put electrodes on them without restraining them.  It is all just sick to me.
Sounds fascinating, weird, and kind of cruel to me. And perhaps a bit useless for CAN.
02-05-2007, 06:57 PM
Dang, I saw a commercial for the new auction yesterday or a couple days ago.....it seems an awful lot like a repeat of the last one. And the woman announcing it is so creepily enthusiastic, it scared the crap out of me.
I have to add the commercial to my video tape "Michelle C******'s Recipe for Nausea", where it can share a permanent home alongside about thirty repeats of the 4Kids-dubbed One Piece theme song and random annoying commercials from early 2006....!
But I'll do that later.
I have to add the commercial to my video tape "Michelle C******'s Recipe for Nausea", where it can share a permanent home alongside about thirty repeats of the 4Kids-dubbed One Piece theme song and random annoying commercials from early 2006....!
But I'll do that later.
02-05-2007, 09:27 PM
http://www.cureaut
ismnow.org/site/apps/nl/content2.a
sp?c=bhLOK2PILuF&b=1289185&ct=3217855
ismnow.org/site/apps/nl/content2.a
sp?c=bhLOK2PILuF&b=1289185&ct=3217855
CAN Wrote:
"VH1 Classic to Auction Custom Def Leppard / Journey Motorbike for Cure Autism Now
Los Angeles, Calif., Nov. 1, 2006 - VH1 Classic has partnered with Def Leppard and Journey to auction off a custom, autographed motorbike. The bike, designed by Cory Ness of Arlen Ness Motorcycles, is signed by each member of both bands. From Nov. 1 through Nov. 22 online users can visit http://www.vh1auctions.com to bid on this rock-n-roll machine. Proceeds from the auction will be donated to Cure Autism Now (CAN).
“We are humbled by the generosity of these two legendary bands and VH1 Classic's commitment to raising awareness and funding for autism,” says Peter Bell, president and CEO of Cure Autism Now. “Anyone that has ever played air guitar to 'Rock of Ages' or 'Don't Stop Believin' and rides a motorcycle needs to seriously consider bidding--it's a one-of-a-kind.”
Beginning today, VH1 Classic will air promos about the auction showing Neal Schon of Journey and Joe Elliott of Def Leppard test-driving the bike. As the sponsor of the current Def Leppard/Journey tour, VH1 Classic will also include auction signage at each of the concert venues during upcoming tour stops.
“VH1 Classic is happy to harness the power of these two iconic bands and Arlen Ness Motorcycles to help drive awareness and research of this rapidly growing disorder,” says Eric Sherman, senior vice president and general manager, VH1 Classic and VH1 Digital Networks.
The bands are equally excited about this unique fundraiser, which enables them to lend their voices to the fight against autism.
“The custom Journey/Def Leppard bike that Arlen Ness Motorcycles created is one bad-***, wicked-mean bike with all the frills and best parts that money can buy. A lucky fan will own this bad boy in just a few weeks. Best of all, the money is going to Cure Autism Now,” says Neal Schon of Journey.
“I concur with Neal that this is not just a bike but an absolute work of art...some lucky person is going to own this bike and I will be forever jealous of the fact that it won’t be me! But I will take some comfort in the knowledge that the money we raise will be going to such a worthy cause,” says Joe Elliot of Def Leppard.
Cory Ness of Arlen Ness Motorcycles, who worked with Schon and Elliott on the design of the bike, was thrilled to have the opportunity to create both a tribute to these legendary musicians and a first-class cruiser.
“It was an honor and privilege to build a motorcycle for these rock icons. Neal Schon and Joe Elliott not only rock, they know how to design a motorcycle,” said designer Cory Ness. “This bike not only rocks, it rolls! Someone is going to own a piece of history.”
For more information or to bid, visit http://www.vh1auctions.com."
Los Angeles, Calif., Nov. 1, 2006 - VH1 Classic has partnered with Def Leppard and Journey to auction off a custom, autographed motorbike. The bike, designed by Cory Ness of Arlen Ness Motorcycles, is signed by each member of both bands. From Nov. 1 through Nov. 22 online users can visit http://www.vh1auctions.com to bid on this rock-n-roll machine. Proceeds from the auction will be donated to Cure Autism Now (CAN).
“We are humbled by the generosity of these two legendary bands and VH1 Classic's commitment to raising awareness and funding for autism,” says Peter Bell, president and CEO of Cure Autism Now. “Anyone that has ever played air guitar to 'Rock of Ages' or 'Don't Stop Believin' and rides a motorcycle needs to seriously consider bidding--it's a one-of-a-kind.”
Beginning today, VH1 Classic will air promos about the auction showing Neal Schon of Journey and Joe Elliott of Def Leppard test-driving the bike. As the sponsor of the current Def Leppard/Journey tour, VH1 Classic will also include auction signage at each of the concert venues during upcoming tour stops.
“VH1 Classic is happy to harness the power of these two iconic bands and Arlen Ness Motorcycles to help drive awareness and research of this rapidly growing disorder,” says Eric Sherman, senior vice president and general manager, VH1 Classic and VH1 Digital Networks.
The bands are equally excited about this unique fundraiser, which enables them to lend their voices to the fight against autism.
“The custom Journey/Def Leppard bike that Arlen Ness Motorcycles created is one bad-***, wicked-mean bike with all the frills and best parts that money can buy. A lucky fan will own this bad boy in just a few weeks. Best of all, the money is going to Cure Autism Now,” says Neal Schon of Journey.
“I concur with Neal that this is not just a bike but an absolute work of art...some lucky person is going to own this bike and I will be forever jealous of the fact that it won’t be me! But I will take some comfort in the knowledge that the money we raise will be going to such a worthy cause,” says Joe Elliot of Def Leppard.
Cory Ness of Arlen Ness Motorcycles, who worked with Schon and Elliott on the design of the bike, was thrilled to have the opportunity to create both a tribute to these legendary musicians and a first-class cruiser.
“It was an honor and privilege to build a motorcycle for these rock icons. Neal Schon and Joe Elliott not only rock, they know how to design a motorcycle,” said designer Cory Ness. “This bike not only rocks, it rolls! Someone is going to own a piece of history.”
For more information or to bid, visit http://www.vh1auctions.com."
History has just been given a very bad name by the dang rednecks. Why does almost everything good end up going with something bad, something that can make it seem like the awfulest thing in the world?
Oh CAN, you're gonna burn, but not before my heart gets turned into a blood sausage from CAN making my blood boil like crazy. Now if only someone could break a piece off the dang motorcycle or take a bit off a CAN member's T-shirt and use it to put a curse on 'em.....
And am I the only one who's a tiny bit turned off by the bar at the top of CAN pages or not? CAN, you mean to melt peoples' hearts, but the water's getting way too hot and bubbles are starting to form in it.
You may also want to consider writing to Lynn Hoffman. That's the name of the overly-enthusiastic woman who appears in the commercials for the auctions. They're really disturbing, trust me, and I'll try to find the commercial for the auction or upload it.
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