Aspies For Freedom

An NT system of rating sexual attractiveness of someone.

(if you have read the "sex with people you don't know" thread, you might find this entertaining)


1.  Attractive:  you would jump that.

2.  okay:  you would jump that.

3.  Well, the body is ok but the face.  Would have to put a bag over the head.  (note, do not use a plastic bag)

4.  Oh.  double bag it.  Head and body bags.

5.  Where is my biohazard suit?  Full body protection required and separate air supply.

6.  couldn't be on the same planet but would make a test tube baby with that.  No contact.

I think this joke is generally used to describe MEN.  There really aren't NT women that come even close to that way of thinking.

Yes, the women too.

Just add, he is wealthy to items 3 to 6.

The joke wouldn't work for women even if you added "wealthy" to all of the steps.  You see, the point of the joke is that someone wants sex so badly they will sleep with pretty much anyone in order to experience it.  That simply is not true of NT women (nor most men, period, to be honest - but we are talking about a joke here, taking something that may be true of a few and extending it based on shared traits).  Women generally aren't after the sex at all.  They are after the relationship, and some, yes, I admit, are willing to use sex to get it.  And, yes, you certainly can joke that NT women prefer wealth in deciding who to pursue for the relationship.  If you don't "get" the distinction I'm making, then you don't "get" NT's enough to write jokes about them.  Not ones that are funny instead of offensive, anyway.  Just my opinion.  As a more NT than not women, with lots of female friends (some NT, some not).

I do recognize that far too many jokes have been made about Aspies that come from a lack of understanding as well, and cross the line from something you might be about to laugh with, into something offensive.  But reversing the roles still doesn't make a joke showing a poor understanding of a group of people any funnier.

Hey I liked the joke but then again you guys haven't met my seedy NT mates!
As to the whole women and wealth thing, I am a divorcee with a jaded and cynical perpective of what single women want. Are they looking for financial stable (if not wealthy) men? Hmmmm....on grounds I may incriminate myself I will say nothing! LOL

I would answer that, "yes."  It's OK if a guy isn't wealthy, but he should be financially stable.  For marriage, at least.  We (women) are taught that throughout our lives, in subtle and not-so-subtle ways, that you don't settle down with a guy who isn't financially stable.

Are you sure the women you've known were looking for sex and not willing to use sex to get to something else?  See, it is so very rare for women to go out seeking the sex.  It is less rare for the men.  Most men, in fact, will joke about themselves as thinking with their second head.  Women don't.  Women tend to get emotionally invested in the act much more than men.  As a result, the NT population tends to accept these kinds of jokes about men, but would never make them about all NT's including women.  

I didn't read the thread about sex with different people, so maybe I should ... to better understand what you think the Aspie v. NT difference in attitude is.

"For love or money" definately is seen in a different light.
I think that it is no more wrong for a female to accord a man extra consideration for his financial resources than for a man to judge a women on her physical assets or his chances of being able to get her into bed.
Personally I like to get to know the person as old fashioned and cliched as that sounds. Personal appearance helps but is not the be all and end all, it is with my seedy NT mates.
I don't have anything against the way others seem to judge the opposite sex, I understand people are different from me.
At parties my mates will say "Hey what do you think of such and such?" and start drooling on about how hot she is (physically only!) and I say "Mmm..Yeah she's alright. What about so and so, I reckon she's nice." THey just look at me and go "Yeah?!".

This is supposed to be a joke.  Sorry, if anyone took it seriously.

DW_a_Mom thanks for your response. Hope you didn't think I was having a go at those evil NT's or those gold-digging women or those evil gold digging NT women? (LOL) I was trying to lift the mood for the most part and get everyone to appreciate the joke a little. I saw the joke as a joke. Good bad or indifferent. My mates aren't that seedy they're just a lot like typical young Aussie blokes.
From the large post though it may be you do have a point though about the way autistics view the opposite sex.
Please don't think I have a problem with the way male-female relationships work in society. I don't understand it at all, but I don't have a problem. It would be a lot better though if womwn would just throw themselves at my feet instead of me having to learnt the social rules/courting rules/body language/pick up voice tones, etc.
Hmmm... Yes I could definately handle women throwing themselves at my feet (LOL)

An aspie  system of rating sexual attractiveness of someone.

1.  Are they a good person, similiar values, interests etc.?

2.   Do they like my special interests?

3.   Do they mind all the time and effort I put into my special interests?

4.  Can they tolerate me talking about my special interests when I am not occupied with my special interests?

5.  If they don't want to have sex that is ok.

6.  They could become my special interest.

7.  Why does sex matter so much? It is just a bonus in a relationship.  We enjoy spending time together.

Rossco, I don't think seediness turns many women on.

Damn! Is that what I've been doing wrong all this time! (LOL)

Yes, many women think "seedy" comments from guys mean that the guys are acting like jerks and are therefore not suitable boyfriends for them.

Yes, guys who are into this "status thing" don't do anything for me. I also think Johnny Depp is beautiful but don't think so much of other supposed "heart-throbs" like Tom Cruise or Brad Pitt.