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It could. Anarchism could end up being the law of the jungle and I'm sure that wouldn't be for the best.
To 'eyedan': what anarchist groups have you seen?  Why do they not 'represent the true idea of anarchy'?  What is the true idea of anarchy?  Is it what you would like to believe anarchy is bout?  You see, one of the better aspects of Anarchists is that they place more emphasis on actions rather than words - do you know the anarchist phrase 'communism is deed'? - so I base my idea of what anarchists/anarchism (I mean those with serious politics, not nihilistic teens) are about on the way they behave, not what Proudohn/Durutti et al said, and certainly not what your ideal of anarchism is about.

Regarding your comment about discrimination against those with mental differences not being tolerated in anarchist society: an anarchist society is a classless (i.e. communist) society, where economic decisions are made by those who work in the workplaces, decisions regarding the resources etc of a community are made by the residents and political decisions are made by popular council.  Have you ever worked in a supermarket/factory etc?  Do you think those chavs ever would give you a job?  When the community's resources get scarce, do you perhaps think that maybe weridos like you or me will become the collective stress-relief?  And anyway, if this discrimination was not tolerated, how would it be dealt with without defeating the purpose of anarchism?  'The people' hate us, giving them more power - let alone all power - would be suicide.


Saying that, the kind of 'anarchy' described by Editedmind seems more like the jolly japes of teenagers/college students with far too much time times rather than actual politics, and I'm pretty sure no Anarchist that takes themselves and their actions at all seriously would ever associate themselves which such behaviour, and tbh I don't balme them.
shouldn't this be in the philosophy section?

princesi Wrote:
You don't get it. With anarchy you can fight against anyone any way without getting arrested. If those people fugg with you, you can bash their heads in with a bat.  :twisted:
the other way has discrimination anyways only its towards us but with anarchy we can fight back


"Yeah like, der, whatever..."

What you are doing is confusing anarchy ('without rulers' - Greek in origin i think) with chaos, with society an absence of norms and values.  In a society without rulers, without government, decisions will still need to be made: what crops to grow, what materials to manufacture, whether the communities resources should be used to improve health services or local schools, how to deal with those who behave in a manner that is harmful to the community.  If you went around bashing people's heads in with baseall bats, the community  that you live would (in all likelihood) decide collectively, in a democratic and non-heirarchical fashion, that you are a barrier to the harmonious and co-operative way of life that they are striving for, and would deal with you accordingly (ie would send you packing, or would imprison you etc).  But then again, as an aspie, as a 'weirdo', you would probably been seen as an anti-social element anyway, which is my point about anarchism being crap for autisitics.  The hatred we deal with from 'the people' is not culturally, geographically or historically relative - it is simple gut reaction.  Their hatred for us is not intellectual, it is insinctive.  In an anarchist society, 'humanity' would have free reign, which for us would be disaster.

If anarchy involves me sitting on a big pile of cash, atop a  big tower running my business..I must be one

sadly it doesn't ;]

princesi Wrote:

You don't get it. With anarchy you can fight against anyone any way without getting arrested. If those people fugg with you, you can bash their heads in with a bat.  :twisted:
the other way has discrimination anyways only its towards us but with anarchy we can fight back


Yeah but some people aren't good at defending themselves and such, that's why we need police.

British Justice is truly the best kind of Justice! Smile

Strictly speaking I'm probably not an anarchist as I'm prepared to participate in the electoral process and am a member of the Scottish Socialist Party, however I do oppose all hierarchies and inequalities and would like to see a system of decentralisation and direct democracy. I'm very much inspired by the actions of the CNT-FAI during the Spanish Civil War and of both the Ukrainean Makhnovists and the Kronstadt sailors who stood up for freedom and were consequently massacred by the Bolsheviks.
What happened to my original post (regarding medical libertarianism), and eyedan's post?

To Ammyanne: you don't come accross moronic at all.

rossco

The one element which will corrupt any form of governing is human propensity to be horribly human.
People are still confusing anarchism with anarchy.  Anarchism is only functional among people who are ethically advanced or strongly moral (not moralistic--there's a difference).  <==== Oh, so no nation in the modern world then.

Ian
Look over there, a woman is learning!
"The Antichrist" is a particular antichrist who will become a major world ruler and institute a reign of terror, with worship either of himself or of the state as the only legal religion.  But even in his case, he is not some sort of supernatural entity, merely a charismatic human being.


Thats the one people think i am for some reason :p

all because i'm obsessed with corporatism, totalitarianism, totalitarian communism etc :p

and of course, the military ;p

DogBrain Wrote:

Ian Wrote:
Thats the one people think i am for some reason


So, how many countries do you rule?  If you're not well on your way to world domination, you're still just a garden-variety penny-ante antichrist.



Well I won't dignify that with a true answer. Smile

If Anarchy is freedom..

Then surely i'd be free to make money with no restrictions at all? thus limitless growth ;p

DogBrain Wrote:
Once again, it seems that very few people have the intelligence to understand the difference between generic "anarchy" and the specific political movement of "Anarchism".


DArrrr

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