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I am an anarchist in my heart.  I don't mind if people tell me what to do, but that does not mean I am gonna do it.   I support myself and live under the radar so I do the LEAST to tick anyone off so I can have the biggest amount of freedom.
Mavis
I think AS makes people prone to anarchism because a strong sense of logic and practically will push people against lousy rules. However, that same sense of practicallity and logic should also bring us to accept that some rules are practical and necesairy.

Ian Wrote:
Oh, so no nation in the modern world then.



Your point being?

I only know one anarchisitc partyTongue the APPD The anarchisitc pogo party of Germany Tongue
Main Aim. Balkanisaton of Germany , beer for everyone.

32flavors_AndThenSome Wrote:
So... do we have any antichrists on here?


An antichrist is anyone who denies that Christ is the promised Messiah.  Thus, there are probably a lot of antichrists here.  "The Antichrist" is a particular antichrist who will become a major world ruler and institute a reign of terror, with worship either of himself or of the state as the only legal religion.  But even in his case, he is not some sort of supernatural entity, merely a charismatic human being.

Ian Wrote:
Thats the one people think i am for some reason


So, how many countries do you rule?  If you're not well on your way to world domination, you're still just a garden-variety penny-ante antichrist.

Anarchy is, like communism, an idea that would only work if everyone was sane, rational and basically good (in the sense of having a moral code, doesn't really what that code is).

Nevertheless, I am, personally, an Anarchist. I pay no attention to rules that make no sense, and I hold firm to my belief that if George Bush & co really cared about Iraq that would have sent an assassin instead of bombing them. I know it wouldn't have solved the underlying problems anymore than war has, but it wouldn't have caused so many new ones either.

The problem with laws is that there is always an exeption to the rule, and the Law, by nature and necessity, never makes allowances for that.
Once again, it seems that very few people have the intelligence to understand the difference between generic "anarchy" and the specific political movement of "Anarchism".

.jaime. Wrote:
There is a vast range of anarchist "schools"; which school of thought do you lean towards?


Since I'm not a delusional out-of-touch goofball, I lean towards no flavor of Anarchism.  I actually have some experience with reality and refuse to live in a fantasy world, so it is not possible for me to actually espouse any sort of Anarchism, no matter how pretty a pipe dream any of them might be.

That being said, I'm familiar with pre-Marxist communal Christian anarchism (I grew up in Indiana, where New Harmony exists, after all), Nihilism, Minarchism, Rothbardian Anarcho-capitalism, Marxist Anarcho-socialism, and a few other currents.

DogBrain Wrote:
True enough, there are the anarchists who are merely extremely naive.  Even the tiniest knowledge of human nature would inform anyone that utopianist agendas like anarchism are not for the real world.

Some people prefer to live striving for an ideal. You might call it naive, but that attitude has created many great things. Those who believe it is impossible to do something should not get in the way of those that are doing it.

DogBrain Wrote:
And what about those who are destroying the world in an attempt to impose out-of-touch, unrealistic, and ultimately harmful dogmas upon us all?  What should we do about them?  There have been better outcomes, but who is so foolish as to pretend that only good outcomes are possible?  


I said "striving for an ideal", not "impose out-of-touch...harmful dogmas upon us all." I also never said only good outcomes are possible.

You have a flair for negative dramatics, DogBrain.

DogBrain Wrote:

.jaime. Wrote:
[quote=DogBrain]
I said "striving for an ideal", not "impose out-of-touch...harmful dogmas upon us all."


Now, what guarantees are there that a devotee's "striving for an ideal" actually IS NOT imposing out-of-touch dogmatics?  It's been my observation that the people least trustworthy to lead are the idealists.  They tend to overlook niggling little details in their perfect little worlds.


It is possible to live without trying to force others to do what you want. I find the tangle you've created between the word "ideals" and the word "dogma" very odd. They are capable of existing independently.

One can also at once be an idealist and a realist, capable of dealing with details.

Barney Wrote:
(actually a good ***, agreeing to be paid to let others use his body as a recepticle for people's cigarette smoke, something dirtier than a sexual prostitute agreeing to be paid to let others use her body as a recpticle for other peoples semen.


People agree to be "receptacles" for semen for free, people like mothers. Are they dirty too? Is it the price of a courtesan that you find distasteful, or simply sex itself? This strange simile of yours opens up a whole new arena of discussion.

tsw Wrote:

Barney's reference to a prostitute as "her", and your not noticing that, is quite telling about society in general.

I did notice.

tsw Wrote:
Yes. I see now. Your refering to prostitutes as "people" is gender neutral and (for me, in restrospect) indicates that you did notice this.

I'm left wondering why you chose not point this out to Barney?


It was an area I saw in the "arena of discussion" I said his simile had opened. My primary point was about prostitution itself. I have found that introducing any perceived feminist slant can rattle some readers out of all logic, so that they miss my original point. I decided to proceed one subject at a time for that reason.

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