10-22-2006, 08:40 AM
10-25-2006, 05:55 PM
I wouldn't say that I am, but I find it very interesting.
10-29-2006, 10:27 PM
I know of several anarchist groups around the world such as Suicide Club and Reclaim The Streets.
To be honest, it seems to me that anarchy has it's strongest force over the internet. Sites such as the internet board 4chan are overrun by chaos. The thing that I find most interesting is how they form 'raids' to achieve certain senseless goals as getting cam girls to put a shoe on their head.
If you still don't know what I'm talking about then perhaps you should do some searches, there are clips of 'raids' done against call-in shows such as those of Tom Green. Another thing that happened recently this summer was a huge 'pool is closed' raid on the Habbo Hotel internet game.
It also seems that 4chan recieved quite a lot of press when people were aiming for the best 'epic win' which resulted in a huge bomb scare during the American Superbowl (or something) for which someone will likely serve up to 5 years in jail.
I also believe one of the legal conditions with many web hosts is that their clients may not actively promote anarchy on their sites.
To be honest, it seems to me that anarchy has it's strongest force over the internet. Sites such as the internet board 4chan are overrun by chaos. The thing that I find most interesting is how they form 'raids' to achieve certain senseless goals as getting cam girls to put a shoe on their head.
If you still don't know what I'm talking about then perhaps you should do some searches, there are clips of 'raids' done against call-in shows such as those of Tom Green. Another thing that happened recently this summer was a huge 'pool is closed' raid on the Habbo Hotel internet game.
It also seems that 4chan recieved quite a lot of press when people were aiming for the best 'epic win' which resulted in a huge bomb scare during the American Superbowl (or something) for which someone will likely serve up to 5 years in jail.
I also believe one of the legal conditions with many web hosts is that their clients may not actively promote anarchy on their sites.
11-29-2006, 10:15 AM
This government is anarchy for those it supports and facism against those it does not support. When the 2 mix together you get a lot of pissed people.
11-29-2006, 10:18 AM
BennyG Wrote:
To 'eyedan': what anarchist groups have you seen? Why do they not 'represent the true idea of anarchy'? What is the true idea of anarchy? Is it what you would like to believe anarchy is bout? You see, one of the better aspects of Anarchists is that they place more emphasis on actions rather than words - do you know the anarchist phrase 'communism is deed'? - so I base my idea of what anarchists/anarchism (I mean those with serious politics, not nihilistic teens) are about on the way they behave, not what Proudohn/Durutti et al said, and certainly not what your ideal of anarchism is about.
Regarding your comment about discrimination against those with mental differences not being tolerated in anarchist society: an anarchist society is a classless (i.e. communist) society, where economic decisions are made by those who work in the workplaces, decisions regarding the resources etc of a community are made by the residents and political decisions are made by popular council. Have you ever worked in a supermarket/factory etc? Do you think those chavs ever would give you a job? When the community's resources get scarce, do you perhaps think that maybe weridos like you or me will become the collective stress-relief? And anyway, if this discrimination was not tolerated, how would it be dealt with without defeating the purpose of anarchism? 'The people' hate us, giving them more power - let alone all power - would be suicide.
Saying that, the kind of 'anarchy' described by Editedmind seems more like the jolly japes of teenagers/college students with far too much time times rather than actual politics, and I'm pretty sure no Anarchist that takes themselves and their actions at all seriously would ever associate themselves which such behaviour, and tbh I don't balme them.
Regarding your comment about discrimination against those with mental differences not being tolerated in anarchist society: an anarchist society is a classless (i.e. communist) society, where economic decisions are made by those who work in the workplaces, decisions regarding the resources etc of a community are made by the residents and political decisions are made by popular council. Have you ever worked in a supermarket/factory etc? Do you think those chavs ever would give you a job? When the community's resources get scarce, do you perhaps think that maybe weridos like you or me will become the collective stress-relief? And anyway, if this discrimination was not tolerated, how would it be dealt with without defeating the purpose of anarchism? 'The people' hate us, giving them more power - let alone all power - would be suicide.
Saying that, the kind of 'anarchy' described by Editedmind seems more like the jolly japes of teenagers/college students with far too much time times rather than actual politics, and I'm pretty sure no Anarchist that takes themselves and their actions at all seriously would ever associate themselves which such behaviour, and tbh I don't balme them.
You don't get it. With anarchy you can fight against anyone any way without getting arrested. If those people fugg with you, you can bash their heads in with a bat. :twisted:
the other way has discrimination anyways only its towards us but with anarchy we can fight back
12-06-2006, 04:57 PM
I think I am a bit of an anarchist, in my heart of hearts. I despise what people in power are capable of doing, and I don't think anyone should be able to tell others what to do short of stopping violence and murder, which tends to negatively affect those who are victims of the aforementioned actions. I am quite a socialist, simultaneously though, because if it is done right, the people can have total freedom (except, once again, violence), yet they are "taken care of" in a good and logical sense. Or maybe I am just incredibly moronic, responding with no inkling of what I intend to say, as usual.
12-28-2006, 08:15 AM
I became an Anarchist when I was 10 and learned that laws were made by people, not omniscent all-knowing machines. because laws are moral values. and all moral values inherantly create moral competetion (i.e. not everyone thinks what you do), and because using violence to enforce morals is wrong, using violence to enforce laws is wrong.
P.S. Aristotle said Republics degenerate into Democracies, and Democracies degenerate into Anarchy
P.S. Aristotle said Republics degenerate into Democracies, and Democracies degenerate into Anarchy
12-31-2006, 01:27 PM
I can't see that terrorism is ever justifiable.
02-25-2007, 06:47 PM
StuartM Wrote:
I... would like to see a system of decentralisation and direct democracy.
So would I Stuart, and I am a member of the BNP.
Funny that!
02-25-2007, 06:49 PM
In addition, there is an interesting cross-over point between nationalism and anarchism - National Anarchism.
The national-anarchist journal can be found here: http://www.rose-noire.org
The national-anarchist journal can be found here: http://www.rose-noire.org
02-25-2007, 08:39 PM
Yeah, it would be perfect idea if everyone was responsible, but there will always be a few crazies who will try and mess everything up for everyone. That's why I'm a minimalist libertarian, just enough government to keep the peace and deal with potentially serious issues (and not waste time on victimless crimes like today's governments do).
03-29-2007, 11:59 PM
Anarchy is merely a period of transition. People naturally form networks and communities of some structure. Most individuals that call themselves anarchists are really communists, socialists, or just people that like to smash stuff up.
Smashing stuff is fun.
Smashing stuff is fun.
03-30-2007, 04:10 PM
DogBrain Wrote:
Once again, it seems that very few people have the intelligence to understand the difference between generic "anarchy" and the specific political movement of "Anarchism".
I don't think it's a lack of intelligence, DogBrain, just lack of knowledge about that particular political philosophy. I personally was just making a joke. There's no need to start name calling and attempting to assassinate people's self esteem.
There is a vast range of anarchist "schools"; which school of thought do you lean towards?
03-30-2007, 04:12 PM
Anarchy would have been the ideal-idea ... had the human race been made of honest chaps ...
Yet, all of us know what humans (including aspies, for that matter) can be up to .... therefore a Communist Regime is the ONE'n'ONLY practical solution.
Yet, all of us know what humans (including aspies, for that matter) can be up to .... therefore a Communist Regime is the ONE'n'ONLY practical solution.
03-31-2007, 12:33 AM
DogBrain Wrote:
Since I'm not a delusional out-of-touch goofball, I lean towards no flavor of Anarchism.
Why the insulting language, again? Just because you may not have anarchistic leanings, there's no reason for you to call those that do, "delusional out-of-touch goofball(s)."
When you said that the people on this thread lacked intelligence, that would imply that you think you are more intelligent, thus in a position to place judgement. Why don't you employ some of your prodigious brainpower, and concentrate on leaving comments that aren't abusive.