Aspies For Freedom

All those years I couldnt tell my left from my right, (my mum still had to write it in my shoes at high school ) and I never knew that was an aspie trait.

I got a 159; most likely an Aspie

Your Aspie score: 161 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 61 of 200
You are very likely an Aspie

I have my doubts about online quizzes in general.  Still, this one was pretty interesting.

Thank you for filling out this questionnaire.

Your Aspie score: 22 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 183 of 200
You are very likely neurotypical

Diagnostic prediction for  Score  Prediction  
OCD  53  It is unlikely you will be able to receive the diagnosis  
Social phobia  45  It is unlikely you will be able to receive the diagnosis  
Bipolar  20  It is unlikely you will be able to receive the diagnosis  
ADD/ADHD (Attention Deficit Disorder)  18  It is unlikely you will be able to receive the diagnosis  
Schizophrenia  17  It is unlikely you will be able to receive the diagnosis  
Autism  15  It is unlikely you will be able to receive the diagnosis  
Asperger/HFA/PDD  10  It is unlikely you will be able to receive the diagnosis  
Dyscalculia  5  It is unlikely you will be able to receive the diagnosis  
Dyslexia  3  It is unlikely you will be able to receive the diagnosis  
Dyspraxia  2  It is unlikely you will be able to receive the diagnosis

Have just done the quiz.

"Your aspie score: 115 of 200
Your NT score:      109 of 200

You seem to have both aspie and NT traits."

Quite nicely balanced I would say!    I reckon, from the questions, that some of my NT traits have been learned as I've got older.

Bit confused by the table about other possible diagnoses.  I'm not good with numbers at all and can't make sense of that part of it.  However, here it is:

ADD/ADHD          144    You very likely will be able to receive the diagnosis
OCD                   121    You will probably be able to receive the diagnosis.
Asperger/HFA/PDD 80     This isn't a primary diagnosis you should seek.
Bipolar                 74                              "
Social phobia        61                              "
Dyslexia               37                              "

How come these numbers are different from the ones above and what does it all mean?!

B"H

I got a whopping 173 for Aspie-ness, and 48 for NT-ness.  However, the test was most uncongenial.  I believe that I should have gotten a 27 for NT.  

200-173=27.  Right?(-:

I am not sure how scientific this test was, but I did enjoy taking it.

All the best.

Interesting. I just did this quiz and I am not diagnosed with anything but a mum to a 5yo Aspie who is a lot like myself as a child but a bit more extreme. But then he is allowed to be himself and I was "trained" to behave with rather harsh methods.

Your Aspie score: 136 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 70 of 200
You are very likely an Aspie

Do you think this could be significant?

Neurodiversity version, release 2.0 (2008-02-22)

Thank you for filling out this questionnaire.

Your neurodiversity (Aspie) score: 140 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 80 of 200
You are very likely an Aspie (neurodiverse)

Diagnostic prediction for Score Prediction
OCD.......................145 .....You very likely will be able to receive the diagnosis
ADD/ADHD..............139 .....You very likely will be able to receive the diagnosis
Asperger/HFA/PDD....125.....Your diagnosis is very likely correct
Bipolar.....................98.......This isn't a primary diagnosis you should seek
Social phobia............90.......This isn't a primary diagnosis you should seek
Dyslexia..................32........This isn't a primary diagnosis you should seek

WiReD test: 24 (?)

And for some reason, I didn't seem to get a score (no pun intended) for the flirting test...

  -BobB

B"H

I have a lot to say about this.  My "Aspie" score was 173.  My NT score was around 48.  I guess if I remembered my exact NT score, it would be even lower...

Before I continue, it is nice to talk to you again, Dr. Foster.  Or, as I say in a tone both extremely respectful and familiar in a friendly way, "Dr. Nominalist."  I have always enjoyed your posts.  To be frank, I think that, at times, this forum sinks to a low in its level of discourse.  At those times, we need intellectual elevation, and I am glad that you provide it.  When people like you tend to post, the level of discourse is elevated.  I say this as someone who has disagreed with you on some occasions, but who still respects your scholarship.

I have abandoned the "Aspie" label, and embraced "Autism."  Now, when I first began to do this, I felt that I had to because of these factors:

1) Attempts by some to elevate Aspies above other Autistics...Elitism premised on the belief that one's knowledge of computers, mathematics, or history somehow elevates oneself above common humanity, and certainly above other Autistics

2) Dr. Asperger's compromises with N*zism

However, in the back of my mind there was a curious "other" sensation.  It is strange when I explain it.  However, it was the feeling that maybe "HFA" is not the best way to explain my personal situation.  

To be frank, I was "Neurotypical" in my own mind for 34 years.  In no sense would I ever consider myself Autistic, because that would have implied some kind of Other.  I will admit this fact, because it is the truth.  

I "became" an Aspie the same way that some of you did, first through self-diagnosis, and then through an official diagnosis.  However, something did not seem quite right, Professor.  At some point, the label of "Asperger" felt spiritually uneasy on my soul.  I could not explain it.  At some point, I decided to embrace a label of "Autism" out of solidarity with the oppressed.  Again, to be frank, Autistics were still an Other, albeit a sympathetic Other.

Now, I believe that a profound revolution has occurred in my thinking.  I no longer view Autistics as an Other.  I no longer see myself as all that high functioning.  I can speak, to be sure.  I can walk, talk, drive, write, compute, and analyze information.  When government agents come to get me because I break license plate numbers in to prime factors, I do not scream, "You are a stranger!" (Mercury Rising)  A year ago, I would think that I had gone crazy after making a claim to the effect that I am "Autistic."

My fear of Autistics was a fear of what was within myself.  I *WAS* afraid.  The Autistic adults that I almost worked with at ******* Center were scary to me, more so than they would have been to a Neuro-typical.  [Name of center omitted by ATM]  In some sense, I understood that I lived on a type of Reservation, similar to the life experiences of Native Americans.  I saw something of myself in them, albeit as a distant mirror.

Yet, I look at certain key things in my own life, and realize that they fit a certain pattern.  I "stim" for sure.  I did so at my Astronomy Club meeting last night.  I believe that "stimming" can take the form of weaving back and forth.  I was doing just that.  I also have a hand motion that I do with pencils (though I prefer spoons).  I make noises when I make that hand motion.  Professor, I must admit that I never connected these traits to Autism, even after I discovered this forum!!!!!!!!!!!   Honestly, I only connected these things when I learned what stimming was.  I did so much more openly when I was younger.

This is the tip of the iceberg.  Hand motions are the tip of the iceberg, although they have lasted with me since I was five.  I have never "outgrown" them.  At times in my life I would avoid stepping on cracks.  Now, I did not fear for my dear mother's back.  (That type of fear is forbidden under Torah Law)  Yet, I did have this compulsion, along with compulsions of having to look back, obsessions around certain subjects, coming late to college lectures but then absorbing the subject voraciously, asking Professors endless questions, even interrupting class to do it, reading the books that I wanted instead of looking the answers up (even when they were in the back of the book), throwing the ball in the air and having to clap before it landed, and, of course, my world famous social graces!  

The label of "Asperger" only came in to its own during the nineties, after decades of being officially ignored.  I am glad that it has come in to its own.  I am not against the label of "Asperger."  It is just that I am not sure that it is so easy to delineate between Asperger and Autism.  Again, if I were some kind of "superior" human being who is more logical than others, why is it that I seem to have been compelled by so many compulsions like having to count to seven before the ball landed?  

These fears violate important Torah commandments, mind you, but I have to be honest here.  I was also a non-believer when I was a young child.  I believe that science held all of the answers.  My hero was Einstein (still is).  I also revered Galileo, Newton, and yes, Darwin.  Only a crazy person would believe in Torah, or in spiritual significance of numbers!  Certainly I would never grow up to believe anything so...And yet, when I did, I was liberated from most of those fears.  How odd that in embracing what I would have considered barbarism I was actually freed from barbarism.

Now, the transition WAS NOT SO SIMPLE.  There are complexities involved because it was a process.  There were times when I formally believed in Torah, but was still compelled by these other belief structures.  This is not a story found in some religions of, "I found it!"  Again, if we are dealing with forces within myself, then I will deal with them my whole life.  Neither science nor religion makes one invincible.  I still struggle with these strange compulsions occasionally.  And, to be honest, it may be that the rituals that I do in some sense subsume them, incorporating them in to a more regular, and therefore healthier practice.  The *need* for those rituals still remains however, and although embedded in the deep human need to be spiritual, does connect to Autism in my case.  Now, to be clear, I do not believe that this is "bad," nor does it explain spirituality away in some kind of reductionist explanation (G-d forbid).

I realize that I should have made this a thread.  Perhaps I will copy it and do so.  My point is that humans are complex.  I no longer believe that Neuro-typicalism is a social construction.  I did but a month or two ago, but I no longer do.  However, I hold to the view that all are created for a holy Purpose each their own, Autistics and everyone else.  With that Purpose comes the need to fulfill it.  If we do not, then we are worse off for having had it and refusing to fulfill it.  "LFA" are created for a holy Purpose, one that I may or may not share in, given that I cannot *really* claim to be LFA in any kind of clinical sense, but which I want to help actualize.  I want to be a part of it, somehow!

Thank you for bearing with me.  I thought that since we have had friendly relations in the past, I would come to you and explain something of my story.  I still "stim."  I still do that funny thing with my hands.  You know what the funny thing is.  You don't have to think too hard about what it is, as most of my readers know it.  Yet, most of the old problems are gone.  It is just that I would like a sense of certainty that they will not---G-d forbid---relapse.  That is part of why I am hear, to garner information, perspectives, and perhaps even support.  

One more thing, I have a project to do for Statistics.  I must find a peer-reviewed study and explore its methods.  I would like to do one on Autism.  Could you PM me a link to one that you know of, one that you think is *interesting*.  It can be one with which you disagree, of course.  

All the best.  Happy Passover, Professor.

Can you not go for a second opinion if you disagree with your diagnosis?

has anyone ever noticed that Clhoe on the tv show 24 is an Aspie

I believe that would fall under a hobby - collecting certain things not an immature interest.

Are you serious??

My question was for outsidelOOkinN. Thats is a big number.

Your Aspie score: 166 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 52 of 200
You are very likely an Aspie

well, I'm only self-DX, but all the same, just helped to reaffirm what I already suspected.