Accepting others is contraversial? Yet, ostracizing others is not questioned? People like Wendy Roberts seem to love to take a handful of perhaps more sever cases of Autism, and then apply it to all people on the spectrum in their Race for a Genocide.
There is one University in Texas (feign surprise... now...) where it is being researched and created. A bit of C4, some matches for the data, and some .50 cal bullets for the researchers will do the trick.
We should be. Or at least, we should be preparing for war. To reiterate, I encountered an idiot on the IMDB when some other guy posted about Asperger's Syndrome, who literally said that the autistic culture and fight for freedom only represents ten percent of the autistic. He literally expected me to believe that ninety percent of the autistic cannot speak/eat/crap for themselves.
Unless we start getting into the faces of the likes of CAN, and the scientific community at large, genocide will occur.
There is a bit of a difference between Down's Syndrome and autism. I could be mistaken based on my experiences, but I have never met a Down's patient that I would credit with figuring out to bang the rocks together. Having seen the insides of a facility that cares for the severely *** and a number of Down's patients, I think a parent to be should know what they could be getting into.
The fundamental difference with autism is that autism in and of itself is not the problem.
Hardly. I have actually visited (not by choice) a facility where a large portion of Sydney's Down's populace is housed. To say that I would rather be stillborn than born like that is no exaggeration. You do us all a disservice by being politically correct and trying to improve everyone. I would have asked to be put down if I had been born with muscular distrophy, too. And a million other things.
No, the difference is that CAN lies about what a parent is getting into when they have an autistic child. They sit there and swear black and blue that the child will just be spending all its time running around screaming and hitting them, without ever bothering to mention that one of them might correct a fundamental flaw in our understanding of the universe one day. I am going to keep saying it until I am blue in the face - I have been to a place where the *** and Down's patients are housed. The stench alone in parts of these mini-hospitals can knock one back six feet. And this is coming from someone who, as a boy, would get himself in creek mud up to his neck.
That is why CAN piss me off on a daily basis. They are unwilling to come and live with me for a couple of months as I try to improve my situation, then they claim I do not suffer. They are like a hangover from the days when churches had control of governments. Presentation of evidence is not necessary - making a claim will do.
To Iron Man: Down's syndrom runs a spectrum, just like autism does. We have in my city a large community of adult's with Down's syndrom who hold jobs, are thriving, and happy. They bring an innocence to adult life that can't help but make you smile. They are valued here. The prenatal test for Down's no more tells you if your child will be institution bound than a prenatal test for Autism would.
Gareth, your comments point to the one thing that really bothered me in the article: the thing about maybe parents like this one are just being blinded by the "my child is perfect" syndrom. No one is blinding me. I know my child is not "perfect." But, hey, who ever said I WANTED a "perfect" child? My child is WONDERFUL. There is a difference. The later concept allows for diversity in definition; the first does not. Plus, parenting should not be about either molding your child to fit a uniform world vision, nor about molding the world to see your child as a perfect model. It's about helping your child discover his own unique gifts, and helping him learn how to use them to lead a happy life. By falling off the curebie wagon, we are simply acknowledging that maybe there is a better path to helping our children lead happy and succesful lives.
FYI, to anyone who cares, I turned down the test for Downs Syndrom when I was pregnant, despite the fact that I was a rather old mom. I would have loved any child God gave me, and I would have done my best to give that child a happy and productive life.
Well, that is one spectrum I certainly would never want to be on. I literally have a family like sharks, so bring[ing] an innocence to adult life that can't help but make you smile" is not exactly an endearing quality to me. Then again, perhaps I do know where these high-functioning Down's patients who "bring an innocence to adult life that can't help but make you smile" are - working for the MPAA! In which case, I don't want them around anyway.
Maybe I should put this more directly: people are always best left to fight or fend for themselves. There is a reason why the generation of Aspies that is organising the fight for equality is often referred to as "the forgotten".
Okay, I will just put this down to my personal experiences colouring my judgement. A little while ago when I was making bus trips to a games shop, I kept running into a group of *** men who would not stop asking me questions in spite of repeated "I'm not here to talk to you" statements. Eventually I said to one of them that their constant attempts to gain my attention were having an effect on my health. A staffer accompanying them started to abuse me for being rude, so out came the hobby knife and a statement to the effect that my combination of diabetes and autism dictates I must kill them all before I suffer brain damage. Or die.
Funnily enough, I have yet to encounter them since.
Just as I would give my right testicle to see the end of diabetes in my world, retardation (of the kind politically correct buttheads like CAN exhibit, too) would not be missed. I'm sorry, but there it is. Stagnation does not help our surivival rates, either.
Except in my own case, I have always been opposed to aborting a child because of what might be. I would give anything to go to my mother in January 1978 and explain to her what my life has been like, then beg her to abort.
The place I grew up has dissolved into violence and hatred, with riots against specific races getting into international news, because we're not allowed to "discriminate" anymore. When we scream "oooh let's not offend each other", we are playing the normie game. As I keep saying, it is our differences that bring us together.
Ah to hell with it, I don't want to live this life anymore. I have literally had enough of life in fear.
That is why it is very risky to apply our goals to others. We might not want to be cured, but if you could ask a patient in Marsden if they wanted to experience the freedom that people on the outside take for granted, I would be surprised if less than ninety percent said yes.
Another issue is being seen to be hypocritical. We tell people that Autism Speaks does not speak for us. Who are we to speak for people with conditions we do not have?
Look at it this way. If we asked Down's patients directly if they wanted to be cured, and an overwhelming majority said no, then so endeth the matter. But it is polite to ask. For all we know, we could get the exact opposite response. Nobody asked me if I would have rather been aborted rather than born, they just assumed I would say no. Fact is, if I had known my life would be this now, I would have ended it before I even started school.
I just think it's pointless to speak of a cure when there isn't one. It's just getting people's hopes up and leaving them prey to quacks and peddlers of all sorts of nostrums that supposedly will make their kids better.
It's a shame that you feel that way about yourself and I don't know what I or anybody else could say that would make it any better. I know you don't want sympathy but don't know what else there is to offer.
However, I ask again, what major contributons to the planet's workings have Down's individuals provided?
To remind us that that our assumptions of life, of what is success and what is not, of what it takes to be happy, are often very,very wrong.
The amazing thing I've found about those with Downs Syndrom is that most of them are actually happier than the rest of us.
We can and should learn something from that.
We live in a complicated world. I believe that our differences exist for a reason. Each having it's place in the tapestry of life. When you choose to pull out a thread, because you aren't sure you care for it's color when set out all alone, and you can't at the moment see how it contributes, you destroy the beauty of the whole and risk unraveling the fabric all together.
I think the Wolfunds wrote a fantastic letter! Thanks for sharing it, Natalia.
Hey, let's hope this situation never eventuates.