Aspies For Freedom

Over on WP I mentioned fighting pre natal testing and Autfinity project, and they tried to accuse me of being against all NTs because voiced my anger at NT oppression, they called me "aspie hitler". They tried to say we're "not victims", tried to act like we're not segregated.
      How can some aspies take this kind of abuse and pretend everything is ok? Not only that, but then flame fellow aspies for taking a stand? Theyr traitors.
      They said about autfinity "what would make an aspie nation better than a NT typical nation?". This comment infuriated me, it's not even about "being a better nation", it's about being allowed to live as a 1st class human being amoung my own people, away from silent segregation, marginalization, and ignorance. NTs have the rest of the world, is it that bad an idea we should have some place to call ours?
        And they said pretty much, we're all disabled. They laughed off aspies who think we're not disabled... You know something I wonder if theyr even aspies. Because obviously they don't have a clue. If they are aspies theyr total traitors. And just because i stand up to NT dominance doesn't mean I hate every NT. If I have some degree of animosity towards NTs, it's not every NT, it's their greater establishment and the majority nuerologically-uneducated and decidedly ignorant ones I usually have a problem with (and we have a right to feel that way). But I guess if i can't defend their ignorance against me then I'm an "aspie hitler" because I don't bend over and take it in the *** :roll:

And they constantly brought up "I'm tired of this us vs them ***". Well hello! We didn't make it that way, what if the Native Americans were against "making it us vs. them" when the white settlers took America? What if white settlers were against "us vs them" thinking when the Brittish tried to colonize us? What if the blacks didn't wanna make it "us vs them" against their white slave owners? What if Jews didn't wanna make it "us vs. them" when they were living under the NAZI regime?
      There is a distinction between acknowledgement and labelling. They labled us, we didn't label ourselves. But if we don't acknowledge it this hatred will only grow stronger.
       I think those people are self centered jackasses who have no balls, and are too pansy to stand their ground. They don't care if future generations of aspies have to face the same situations they have, they'd rather live their marginal lives in exclusion and lie to themselves and pretend everything is ok, because that's what they were taught to do. Theyr cowards.

I'm organizing and getting involved in my local groups, that's what I'm doing.
     Why are you even here dude? Go away, this isn't a site for apathetic fuckwads. What have you done, other than attack my efforts? You look like a stupid **** redneck no teeth ***. You don't belong on an activist board because your clearly an apathetic ***. Go to wrong planet and leave us people with balls alone you no teeth cross-eyed ***.

I'm organizing and getting involved in my local groups, that's what I'm doing.
     Why are you even here dude? Go away, this isn't a site for apathetic fuckwads. What have you done, other than attack my efforts? You look like a stupid **** redneck no teeth ***. You don't belong on an activist board because your clearly an apathetic ***. Go to wrong planet and leave us people with balls alone you no teeth cross-eyed ***.

Aw Diddums... Another bad-attitude idiot. Snake having a little hissy fit - lol.

All I did was ask you a simple question.

If you respond to challenges with a string of insults then all you display is your own ignorance and you're unfitness to represent any decent Autistic. You prove nothing by your stupidity except re-enforcing the attitudes of those who would be prejudiced against Autistics.

Good for you on organising and involving yourself in your local groups. One only hopes you carry yourself with greater maturity there than you have in how you have responded to a very simple question.

Actually he also posted the answer to your question among the insults. You shouldn't go flaming people who want a rant Noctavius.

Don't worry, Louise... People like Snakie do not worry me in the least. He can rave at me all he likes - it is of no consequence whatsoever.

I do not consider my reply to be flaming in the least.

Snakie shouldn't try flaming me - he'll only hurt himself.

I did notice his answer... and I didn't say he hadn't delivered one.

Seems he isn't opposed to flaming fellow Autistics he disagrees with also. What a hypocrite.

The reason I flamed you was because you wanna *** like an apathetic ******** anytime someone actually suggest DOING something. You didn't answer my question, what are you doing to help out? Probably nothing but typing on a keyboard trying to defend segregation against people like us.

If you asked politely like I asked you in my first post, then perhaps I will reply. Maybe an appology would help also.

All I did was ask you a question. I was not attacking you, until you lashed out at me.

I think you will find I have NEVER defended 'segregation' or 'prejudice' against Autistics.

"OK... you're standing up against NT oppression.

Right. Have you accomplished anything with your stand? If so, then what has your stand accomplished?"

      No, your belittling my effort to DO SOMETHING. Just like you did when I replied about a march in the other post. You still haven't answered my question, what are you doing?

No, I wasn't belittling your effort... I was asking what you had accomplished. You were reading into the question more than was actually there.

You presume an attack where no attack existed. You are projecting your aggression upon me when I was not being aggressive towards you.

I work to progress understanding of Autism within groups who work towards helping Autistic children - and no... not any of the groups who would have us aborted... I'm talking about the local hospital Early Learning Centre and the such like.

I also work to encourage parents of Autistic children that they can be positive towards Autism and not negative regarding it. I try to show workers and parents and anybody what it is like to be an Autistic person from the inside and not as the text books clinically portray us.

Recently I edited together video footage for a presentation by the local Portage regarding S.P.E.I.C. = Scheme to Promote Early Interactive Conversation.

Several groups are interested in arranging for me to speak at meetings, but nothing has been finalised yet in that direction.

Now this work might not be anything you feel you can respect, but there you go.

I apologize, you just chose a bad selection of words to get your point accross and it sounded like you were belittling me. My apologies, but in the future maybe you could find a nicer sounding way of disagreeing.
     Currently I'm working in trying to pull aspies together from various autism groups, even from the Autism Society as much as I hate them (gotta work with what I have though). At the moment I'm trying to organize a march that will get us noticed, we'll protest pre natal testing and our treatment in society as due to the propaganda of "advocacy services" such as the Autism Society. We'll also protest against silent segregation in schools, work, social environments, and mental health facilities. I also wanna propose the idea of aspie housing developements ran by aspies for aspies.
     I only need a small handfull of people to participate in this march with me.

I apologise for firing back at you Snake.

I cannot remember the thread you mentioned where you considered me to be attacking your march... I wish I knew which thread so I could review it and see what was what.

From what you say here, your march seems to be standing for fine things and I wish you the best of success with it.

I appreciate that written words can come across all kinds of ways... I did not mean offence. I do try to write clearly but, as any Autistic, am prone to faux pas like anybody else. The question does seem a little blunt, but then I hadn't considered that my motivation might be misunderstood.

I appologise to you for any poor wording of my question. It was not my intention to come across as belittling you - otherwise I would have taken more consideration to my wording and covered that base.

I haven't the foggiest why the question is prefixed with the word 'Right' - I know I wrote the question quickly... Perhaps I replaced a sentence and left the first word... or perhaps I just said 'Right' in my head and wrote it down without leaving it out. I think it must be the latter since I cannot imagine a sentence starting in 'Right' otherwise. I am sorry about that.

My very best wishes to you Snake. I'll be interested to know how the march goes  :grin:

That will be appreciated  :grin:

I'm familiar with depression, Snake... Though I've never been so far as to be suicidally depressed - although I have been self-destructive at periods.

I hope you get a handle on it soon and recover your emotional balance.

All my very best wishes to you.