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Won't we be writing it like this?
Ideographs are difficult to learn if they're the only means of writing it.  Why not a syllabary based on simplified, easier-to-write forms of these letters, perhaps later supplemented by logical ideographs if it feels necessary?  English letters are overly-complex forms that children have difficulty learning until they develop very fine motor control; if we're to make it as simple to learn as possible, why not reduce the number of strokes and intricacy of the letters and perhaps combine common sounds to help reduce the overall number of shapes to learn?

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If we write like this then the language itself will be seen as only a code and would attract more fascination to NTs who want to "crack" our code....that above all else must be avoided...

if NTs were to learn our language...then it would become a second english....


Um, english-speaking people have "cracked" Japanese, Chinese, and Egyptian hyrogliphics, all of which use different writing systems. That in and of itself in no way makes it immune to being cracked.

On the other hand, there is definatley something to be said for a simplified form of writing as far as speed and ease of writing go.

nathanww Wrote:
Um, english-speaking people have "cracked" Japanese, Chinese, and Egyptian hyrogliphics, all of which use different writing systems. That in and of itself in no way makes it immune to being cracked.

On the other hand, there is definatley something to be said for a simplified form of writing as far as speed and ease of writing go.


I'd love to see people's proposals in regards to that.  If we can come up with a system, I can probably create a font for it.  (Incidentally, it's not as though autlang can't be represented by English writing even if an alternative script is developed, particularly since it was created by English speakers and is unlikely to have any sounds that are so foreign they can't be represented by English letters, right?)

Are there any letterforms people consider most difficult to write?  For those of you who have kids on the spectrum who are learning to write, are there any in particular they seem to have trouble with?  Would people like to see a script composed of more straight lines, or just simpler shapes without as many curves and backstrokes and lines that require lifting pencil from paper?  How do people feel about using fewer letterforms and more diacritical marks to distinguish between sounds (i.e. in some writing systems, the "hard" and "soft" consonant sounds of a letter like "g" would be represented by the same basic letter, but an addition like a dot or circle above that letter would tell you whether it's soft or hard)?

ASira Wrote:
hhmm... how bout getting codes... a letter or number or symbol or doodle represents an english letter that will sound phonetically with Autlang
that way NTs would never guess which symbold represents what letter thou with some time they could discover it but... thay would need the 2nd stage of knowing the sounds of autlang which they dont...

er... do i make sense!?


Decoding scripts really isn't that hard.  Smile  This isn't going to accomplish any aim of secrecy.

I don't, but it seems like some other people do.  Why?  *shrugs*  I don't know.
I have said it before, I will say it again.

The letter 'c' is completely unecesary.  We can just use k and s for the sounds 'c' normally represents, and make up a symbol for 'ch'.

Which brings up a question.  Will we make individual letters for 'th', 'ch', 'sh', ect.?  I am not sure if that would be considered more or less complicated.

As for which letters are difficult to learn, my little brother has difficulty with 't' (he used to write it like an x) and 'h' and 'n' and 'r'.

Will we make our own forms of punctuation marks or use english ones?

Luai_lashire Wrote:
I have said it before, I will say it again.

The letter 'c' is completely unecesary.  We can just use k and s for the sounds 'c' normally represents, and make up a symbol for 'ch'.

Which brings up a question.  Will we make individual letters for 'th', 'ch', 'sh', ect.?  I am not sure if that would be considered more or less complicated.

As for which letters are difficult to learn, my little brother has difficulty with 't' (he used to write it like an x) and 'h' and 'n' and 'r'.

Will we make our own forms of punctuation marks or use english ones?


I'd suggest making letters for "th", "ch",  "sh", and similar constructions, especially since in those cases, the pronunciation derived from the two separate letters combining into one sound is not at all intuitive.  And I agree -- "c" is probably unnecessary.  

I'd probably keep English punctuation unless something presents itself that's so radically different from English that it won't work as well.  What do you think?

But why do all this stuff? I don't understand.
But I still really don't understand. Is it supposed to be like a universal language, maybe something like Esperanto was?
It could be possible to work out some Aspie slang.
Hey, I don't have the time right now, but if someone could make up a list of syllables that need to be added to that table- things like "rk", "sl", "rt", ect, that would be very helpful.

I'll have an example of a possible script up ASAP, something I've been working on during boring school classes.....
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/42570900/


I tried to get the image itself to appear in my post, but unfortunately I don't really understand how and it isn't working.  Help?
Personally, I'd just like a way of making myself understood in my native language which is English. But this project is interesting and it would be nice to have some "in" words we could use.
Hey!  Has anyone even NOTICED my previous post?  It would be nce if someone would tell me how to get an image onto the forum, however in the meantime you can all follow this link to see the beginings of my script for Autlang, and tell me what you think:  http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/4257...ort%3Atime
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