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I was arrested at the time of the assault, but that was just for the cops to do their paperwork and I was released the same day.

But I never did time in prison or had any probation or nothing,

what I proved wrong is that they were saying I was the agressor.
for those who dont understand my point of view, learn about how things work, learn about the theorie of mind, why certain things happen.

Learn how the media works.

When you understand it, you'll understand every situation.
and I;m still waiting for an explanation from noctavis as to why I am the bad guy when I clearly proved it in a court of law that I was not.

if you still think I'm the bad guy then your going against the law and media this time.  OH NOOO! CAN'T HAVE THAT NOW CAN WE!  - for those who understand irony.

if noctivus still is against me for that, then his opinion is pretty ironic.
I guess you arent able to understand my question.

if you read what I wrote you would see there is no technicality involved.

OK maybe I made a mistake when I said the media is still talking bad about me, what I ment was the media had a strong opinion against me then I proved them wrong, so whos to say that there arent any other cases of people where the media talked wrong about them when they shouldn't have.

you didnt understand the last part I wrote either.  I'll have to use an example.



- your walking alone in a school hallway, minding your own buisness. Gareth is walking in front of you and wants to pull a prank on the school and pulls the fire alarm and runs out of the school and nobody sees him but someone sees you in that hallway at the time it was pulled.  the person that sees you in the hallway reports that to the principle and you get questionned and you tell the principle who it really is, the principle questionnes the Gareth, now that person knows that he has no other choice but to blame it on you so he wont get caught.  So the principle interviews both you and him to decide whos lying and whos not.  now, Gareth is an NT and can communicate and lie easily and you can not express yourself, who is the principle going to beleive?  Odds are stacked against you.  So in the end you get in trouble for it and they have really strickt laws against that and you get expelled and hit the news and everything.

This is what it's gonna look like in an article in the media:


On september 24th, At shithole high, 18 year old noctivagus wanted to pull a prank on the school, he had planned this for a while, the principle said.  He pulled the fire alarm at 1PM and rushed the entire school outside for no reason whatsoever, only to cause trouble.  He had also attempted to blame it on poor innocent Gareth who was also in the hallway at the time.  When he was questionned he denied the incident but witnesses say otherwise.  "we are glad to expell him, our schools do not need bad people like that" said the principle.

He is currently being charged with mischief.


now, what did you do wrong?

what are you gonna do now in this situation?



that is very likely to happen, then what will you think about the media?
actually I dont see how it cant make sense, someone was being bullied and faught back and now he is respected because he finally stood up for himself.  

he was attacked and couldnt win the fight barefisted because he was at a size disadvantage.  but I guess you cant understand that either.

if you dont owe me any replies you should have kept your mouth shut when I present my opinion and mind your own buisness.

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I also note that your story gets progressively more elaborate. Turning from harrassed, hounded, bullied individual to hero is quite a surprising accomplishment - doesn't usually happen. I find parts of it difficult to believe without corroborating evidence

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lol. And yet you feel the need to boast about it here. lol.

then why did you ask in the first place



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You presented that article YOURSELF. You presented it without any povisions whatsoever.



if you had the intelligence to realise my point you would understand why I did that.

it's still in the archives and it was never updated or nothing, so the bottom line is that anyone could see it if they want, and you just proved my point, thats not even the media and they still lied, so imagine how bad the media is.  what you say is pretty ironic.

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ROTFLOL... I'd think the media must have had a very dry news day to be bothered with such a trivial incident. lol


ok, so I didnt bother to waste my time thinking of stories, but if you cant understand the point, then theres no use talking to you.  it's like talking to a mentally challenged in a wheelchair.

my question is what would you do in that situation other then think they had a dry news day.  but I guess you cant give a straight answer either like any your answers.

I did write my case in a "coherent pattern", I just tried to change it because you didnt seem to be understanding like any other human would.
understand your answers lol?  if your more pre-occupied that the media had a dry day over the fact that your life is screwed because of something you didnt do then there is a problem "LOL".  

The world owes me? try to find a quote where I said that lol.

as for the mental in a wheelchair, I was comparing it to you, not talking bad about it, ok, so I used a bad example, the bottom line is that they cant understand our language and neither can you as you can read by what you've been saying.  I am in no way prejudiced against them, I would take care of them, help them, do anything for them, I just wouldnt waste my time trying to have a conversation with them because it wouldnt go nowhere, as you can see I have to explain everything I say for you to understand, just cant get the big picture, gotta find mistakes in the details because you cant think of anything else to b1tch about.

Maybe in the UK or in your time, the 70s things were different but where I come from and in my time, aspie or not we have rights and the right to express our opinion AND the right to live.  look at you, your a skinhead, I never said anything about that.  thats your opinion.
again, I already explained that to you that I wasnt the one who attacked the other guy, so thats not a fact.   I defended, not attacked

the reason why I had the weapon is because I knew I was getting jumped, ok so that is a fact, but that can be dropped because of distress.

actually I did break his nose and gave him a 2mm fractured skull and internall bleeding in his eye and I tore a chunk off his ear, they just didnt post it at the time because it wasnt confirmed.


parising a murderer had nothing to do with getting off.

I'm sure a lot of people who were victims of the 9/11 attacks would praise the murder of osama bin laden so you cant count out 5000+ people.

FYI it was a my school and he showed up in an attempt to jump me and I anticipated it.  thats another reason why I got off, because he came to MY school to get to me, he is the reason why I changed schools in the first place.
what would you do, if you were jumped by someone twice your size and you were stuck in a wheelchair for the rest of your life and the law did ***-all about it?  lol you wouldnt be "ROTFLOL" then.
The real reason why I did that was for revenge, and that is the same reason why buddy acted out with a knife, you are entitled to your own opinion saying revenge is wrong, but in my view, if there is just cause revenge is perfectly acceptable, but ONLY if there is just cause, as in my case.

you can say it is wrong but look at what the law does, someone causes harm, so the law takes revenge by locking them up in a cell, giving them probation, or even killing them by lethal injection/electric chair/hanging/lethal gas.

what complicates our situation is that in the case with aspies the law dosent work for them.

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Okay, so now you're just a liar. You said that YOU were the one being portrayed as "the bad guy" over this matter. Now you're saying JUST THE OPPOSITE.


if you were smart enough to 'think past your nose' you would know what I wrote.  I'll have to explain it again.

read the news report what they said, that I used brass knuckles on the "victim" and that I have 4 charges.  but after the court case all the charges on me were dropped and the "victim" was charged with assault.  So in the end, the article was proven wrong, that the "victim" was the bad guy.   Is that easy enough to understand or do I have to waste any more of my time?

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Cite the evidence that such harassment actually occurred and you're not just making it all up to fit your fantasies.


there is no evidence, but he is an aspie so he is not likely to be beleived by anyone.  it's called theorie of mind, I know you suck at it but learn it then you'll be smarter to "think past your nose"

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Stupidity explains the world far better than conspiracy. It's quite delusional to think that there is some kind of active conspiracy against "aspies".


I didnt mean it literaly, I guess I have to explain that too now....

the fact that an aspie can get annoying sometimes would anger some people and they would unconsiously be happy inside that he was gone.

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Ahhhh. So it wasn't self-defence at all


I dont know why I bother trying to explain to you, you just keep coming up with new things, either your really stupid or you don't have a life.

I had both reasons in mind, revenge and self-defense.  did you ever think of that maybe rather then make me waste my time?

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Been bullied--probably worse than you have ever even IMAGINED, boyo.I have the permanently mis-shapen nose and slightly mis-aligned forearm to go with it. So, what's your point, boyo?


then you are entitled to get vengeance on whoever did that.  

thats all I'm trying to explain to you guys, I have no intention what so ever to draw attention to myself, but I have to use so many examples to try to explain to someone who is as low functioning as noctivaJIZZ to understand, that it may look that way if you can't "see beyond your nose"

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Oh so you are prejudiced against people unfortunate to be *** and crippled... so much so that you wouldn't talk to them? How civil-minded of you.


here we go again, I would talk to them, just not the same way, as in being more elaborate if needed, talking slower only if needed, explaining things more literally if needed,  thats the way I have to talk to you guys, elaborating more, using more examples if you can't understand and so on...

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Oh... a question... What prompted the youth to come all the way to your school just to see you? And unarmed?

What would you have done had he had a gun?


last year, before school was finished I kicked his truck door in, he was harrassing me at the time and I got pissed off....

at the time of the fight he did have big rings on 3 of his fingers on his right hand.

if he would have had a gun I guess I would have most likely been killed, as simple as that.



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Those disgusting, contemptible, ignorant, bigoted statements are completely unacceptable and inexusable. They denigrate mentally challenged people, and wheelchair users. I assume by "they" you are referring to mentally challenged people. They are capable of understanding their native language at the everyday level, if maybe not academic language.


dude, dont even try cause it aint fooling anybody I care about.


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Not in the least, "diddums"--some of us just don't think that the whole world revolves around us.


ummm, I dont see your point, every human has the right not to be bullied.  By saying that, I now think the world revolves around me?  Hint hint - theorie of mind maybe, or major lack of it?  Really low-functioners make up stereotypes like that and it's pretty pathetic.


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I read the link you provided. Quite dry, quite boring. No portrayal as a "psychopath". Just one ordinary punk kid


if you were a little smarter then a *** monkey you would understand the topic of this post and that I'm not "portraying" anyone as a psychopath.


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No, you lied. You flat-out lied


I have to explain something simple once again....

Anyone can still read that and say "he is the bad guy" and I think they should post an update clearing my name, but they never did, so in my opinion, I saw that as still portraying me as the bad guy.



oh, FYI, I can answer all the questions you throw at me.  You are either too immature or too *** to actually answer to anything.

it's really ironic, I use examples to try to get Noctivape to understand something that a *** homo-sapien can understand, then he takes those examples and finds holes in them and tries to cut me down with little success, i've answered all his stupid questions so far at least twice.


But the problem is getting him, or it, I should say, the *** orangatan (or w/e that is as his picture) to actually understand anything.

you said it yourself, revenge is a natural human instinct,

(guess I'm going to have to explain this too)....he harassed me almost daily through grade 12 and my instinct was revenge so I kicked his door in, on the days of school before that he showed up at my school he began calling me on and making a big scene and shoving me around saying he was going to kill me if he finds out it was me who kicked his door in, that pissed me off wich is why I wanted revenge.  I knew he was going to come the next day and try to fight so I brought the weapon to defend myself.

I would NOT have went out of my way to beat him with a weapon, so the purpose was not entirely revenge.  I acted that way because of distress, and thats why the judge let me off.  

If you can't understand the situation, then your at almost as *** as you look.

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Two can play at saying that sort of thing - lol.


thats why I insulted your photo, look at you, trying to find critisize my story rather then staying on topic.

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