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I glanced at the news story in the link.
From what I read, this seems like only more media hype.
In the USA media, we get a lot of this "reverse profiling" of the subject after the incident.
Someone (often described as a 'disgruntled employee' ) goes barking mad, then injures or kills people.
The next step is the media regurgitates stuff like "People we interviewed say he/she was a loner",  "He/she read books (or) spent a lot of time on the computer".  
'Right from wrong' sounds like drugs or a severe mental disorder, not AS.  Never mind the harm done to the AS community or to anyone who is quiet or a bit of a loner.  The media needs to sell newspapers or airtime at any cost and will viciously defend their turf.  Catch the media telling lies and they will cry about their civil rights.
The police charged you with the following...

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Carrying a Concealed Weapon, Possess a Prohibited Weapon, Possess a Dangerous Weapon, and Assault with a Weapon.


Regardless of the mitigating circumstances which quite obviously is what you got off on... you were guilty on all counts as you in this thread have admitted.

    You were carrying concealed brass knuckles.
    You possessed brass knuckles which are prohibited.
    You possessed brass knuckles which are dangerous.
    You assaulted a person with said brass knuckles.

Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. On all charges guilty. Mitigating circumstance, that you were apparently the victim of bullying.

You may have got off... but you have said yourself in this thread that you were guilty of ALL the charges the police charged you with.

Lessons learned by you. None.

Your attitude towards the victim of the murder which report opened this thread is DISGUSTING.

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GSPS investigated a disturbance Thursday 15 September at 2:50 p.m. at a local High School.

An altercation occurred between two 17-year-old males, students of different High Schools.


A question for you. The local High School where this fight happened... was it YOUR school or the High School attended by the other youth?

If the latter... what were you doing at somebody else's school?

Jason_6404 Wrote:
actually I did break his nose and gave him a 2mm fractured skull and internall bleeding in his eye and I tore a chunk off his ear, they just didnt post it at the time because it wasnt confirmed.


Oh my hero!

What a shining example you are to us all!

Isn't sarcasm a wonderful thing?

Oh, and FYI, I am not, nor ever have been a skinhead regardless of the fact that I have shaved my head in the past. I shaved my head because it is more comfortable in light of a scalp condition I have.

Jason_6404 Wrote:
what would you do, if you were jumped by someone twice your size and you were stuck in a wheelchair for the rest of your life and the law did f***-all about it?  lol you wouldnt be "ROTFLOL" then.


I would have to live with that fact and hopefully have the guts to do so.

I would seek to defend myself, but I would not be carrying a weapon.

Oh... a question... What prompted the youth to come all the way to your school just to see you? And unarmed?

What would you have done had he had a gun?

Jason_6404 Wrote:
I'm sure a lot of people who were victims of the 9/11 attacks would praise the murder of osama bin laden so you cant count out 5000+ people.


That's beside the point regarding your sentiments for the murderer in an entirely unrelated case.

You have not been murdered by the woman he murdered. Indeed, she had not murdered anybody.

Jason_6404 Wrote:
The real reason why I did that was for revenge...


Ahhhh. So it wasn't self-defence at all. I wonder what the judge would have said had you been honest with him.

Jason_6404 Wrote:
The real reason why I did that was for revenge, and that is the same reason why buddy acted out with a knife, you are entitled to your own opinion saying revenge is wrong, but in my view, if there is just cause revenge is perfectly acceptable, but ONLY if there is just cause, as in my case.


You are PRESUMING that 'buddy' was sacked wrongly. That is a presumption on your part.

The case is that he was fired because of bad behaviour (towards a customer - if memory serves me). He then goes out, purchases a knife, and kills his ex-supervisor. You obviously believe 'buddy' had just cause to commit MURDER.

So, if you get sacked by an employer and you think he/she is wrong to do so... you would consider yourself justified in taking revenge by killing said employer? Is that so?

Jason, you kick his door in and then arm yourself up to take revenge on him when he comes looking for you... thus injuring him.

Then you lied to the judge, pleading self-defence... when you were really out for revenge.

Now you come here and try and twist and turn and lie and insult all our intelligences... When you're just one dumb little lying bully yourself.

Aww so the guy 'harrassed' you... oh poor diddums.

You Jason... are just as dumb and bad as the bullies you decry... You knowingly provided the motivation for him to seek you out... and you prepared yourself to injure him... then you got off on a sob story, a clutch of lies and half truths... strewth... there is NOTHING whatsoever admirable or heroic about you.

You are a BULLY, Diddums. Your contempt for the law will one day certainly catch up with you.

'Aww but he was bigger than me!' Aww but you were armed.
Oh and Jason, dearie... what you confuse for theory of mind is actually Projection... and since you are deluded anyway... what you project is your own delusion.

Three cheers for Diddums... hero in his own imagination.

Jason_6404 Wrote:
you said it yourself, revenge is a natural human instinct,

(guess I'm going to have to explain this too)....he harassed me almost daily through grade 12 and my instinct was revenge so I kicked his door in, on the days of school before that he showed up at my school he began calling me on and making a big scene and shoving me around saying he was going to kill me if he finds out it was me who kicked his door in, that pissed me off wich is why I wanted revenge.  I knew he was going to come the next day and try to fight so I brought the weapon to defend myself.

I would NOT have went out of my way to beat him with a weapon, so the purpose was not entirely revenge.  I acted that way because of distress, and thats why the judge let me off.  

If you can't understand the situation, then your at almost as retarded as you look.


You have no excuses.

You had a beating coming to you by antagonising a bully who had allegedly been harrassing you and you knew it (not that he was right to beat you or harrass you... but then you had no right to vandalise his property or beat him, or insult me) - so you waited for him with a prohibited weapon. There's more of coward than hero in that.

You were both harrassing and knocking each other about. Neither of you had any moral high ground whatsoever. You provoked the guy and he provoked you. Both of you as dumb as each other.

You have NO excuse.

And now all you can do is to attempt to insult me by saying I look retarded. I note you are too cowardly to have your photo up, so we cannot see whether you look more retarded than I do or not.


There is nothing for a retarded person to be ashamed of. A retarded person is undoubtedly a better person than a nasty little thug. I would far sooner be retarded than to be anything like you, Jason.

You are LAUGHABLE in your crass attempts to harrass and insult me. I couldn't give a fig about what you think of me.

Jason_6404 Wrote:
you just proved what I was doing.


Not by you taking me out of context I haven't - lol.

Jason_6404 Wrote:
what exacly have you said usefull in this topic?  trying to find holes in my story to harass and insult me.


All the holes found in your miserable tale have been provided by you yourself. You yourself have revealed all your own lies and deceptions. in the early parts of this thread.

Trying to make yourself out to be the victim, when it was YOU who provoked the fight by kicking in the guys door. It was YOU who prepared yourself with an illegal weapon... and your motive for both vandalising his property and carrying a weapon to harm him was REVENGE - revealed by your own witless hand as the exchange of posts progressed.

You didn't even have the self-control even to maintain your own lie. How hapless is that.

Now you turn to me and say I'm trying to find holes in your story when you have presented all the holes yourself. Is there any BLAME you are not prepared to excuse yourself from by accusing another?

Now we have the matter of you being harrassed, by this individual. One wonders how that came to start... was this more provoking on your part. You don't appear to be a stranger to provoking this particular person. I even get an impression by what you are now writing, that this person may very well be the only person who was 'antagonising' you. (That's just an impression - it may not be the case, but equally it might be).

So to return to the beginning of this conversation. You presume 'buddy' was in the right when he stabbed his former supervisor to death for being involved in his dismissal for bad behaviour.

Herein we see your basic attitude. And we see that you have carried out this similar attitude of revenge in your real life also.

You are not hero and you are not victim - you are a perpetrator.

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Oh you completely changed your post while I was replying to it. Ah well. I read it as it originally stood - and preserved it in the quotes above.

Jason_6404 Wrote:

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Two can play at saying that sort of thing - lol.


thats why I insulted your photo, look at you, trying to find critisize my story rather then staying on topic.


Now in reply to your edited post....

It just shows your purile mentality.

'Urr... I said you looked like a retard because you went off topic'

Oh - lol. So its my fault you said I looked like a retard.

You are the one who provided the ammunition against your own lie (story), by revealing how you were trying to mislead us originally in telling us you were a victim only trying to defend yourself in the face of a bully.

Now we know you were acting like a thug motivated by revenge. All revealed by you, yourself.

Jason_6404 Wrote:
OK, I tried my best, but if you try to train the dog over and over again and it still dosent listen, then it's hopeless, as the case with noctivagus. I am finished wasting my time with him.

As for what he said about me, whatever you do noc as with posting up nasty pictures, never, ever post up pictures of your wife, I can just imagine how nasty she is by looking at you. I can see it looking something like this - http://www.mhhe.com/socscience/anthropol...606bta.jpg

and if your children are like you, homeschool them, they wouldnt last a day in a NT high school without getting their asses kicked.


This is the last post I have in this topic


Well, insulting my wife and children is totally below the belt.

Just as with your 'bully'/victim, you just don't fight fair.

Yes, you give your best shot to try and hurt me (previous shots having failed), and then you flee.

How pathetic.

You can't get an angle to bully me, and so you pick on my wife and children.

Oh how just and righteous you are.

Ooooo my hero - ROTFLOL

Fly away fragile petal...

woodpeace Wrote:
or if given excuse to violent towards 'perpetrator' (ie demanding or enacting violence against person thought to cause initial problem as 'punishment')".


And that is why I wonder at the McDonalds Murder's diagnosis of Asperger's (after the fact of the crime). His actions seem more in line with Sociopathy than in line with Asperger's Syndrome... mind you, as said elsewhere... he could be both Aspie and Psycho.

Goodness knows the savage internal conflict between the two opposites in somebody both biologically Aspie and mentally Sociopath.

tenaciouscj Wrote:
It was the bit about "quite enjoying violence" that got me. I wonder if he truly is Aspie, too. He hardly seemed to worry or care about the family and friends of the woman he murdered and how they are now suffering.


Yes. He doesn't sound at all Autistic in his attitude.

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