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woodpeace Wrote:
I am also totally appalled at what Jason_6404 wrote.  It is sick, twisted and evil.  

...However there should be an 'official' repudiation by Amy and Gareth  on behalf of AFF of what Jason_64 wrote, so that everyone who reads  this thread will know that we do not condone or approve of murder in any way.


I totally 100% agree.

I have complained to Amy but she has not even opened my PM yet - perhaps she is away for the weekend. I hope that when she reads what has been written some action will be taken to distance AFF from such a sick comment.

Jason_6404 Wrote:
well I guess you guys dont know what its like to be bullied and harrassed.


Think again jelly bean.

Not everybody who is bullied and harrassed turns to murder or even turns to supporting the murder of others.

Jason_6404 Wrote:
...why else would he have done that?


There could be a multitude of reasons. According to what has been reported, the murderer was fired for bad behaviour towards customers. The fact that he went back and murdered his supervisor re-inforces the fact that he had no place working in civilised society. In other words, that it is a pity he even got the job in the first place.

Jason_6404 Wrote:
OK, so maybe that was a bit extreme what I said, but think, what would have happened if he didn't act out, he would have gotten fired and all the NTs would be laughing and would have gotten away with f****** another aspie.


A 'bit extreme'??? What you said was ill-thought out prattling and WRONG.

All he did was prove the point of anybody who hates or fears Aspies.

Jason_6404 Wrote:
look at what happened to me, last year I was being bullied at school for a whole year and the teachers didnt beleive me.  Read at what the media said about ME!

http://police.sudbury.on.ca/archive.php?...om=&ucat=&

I was carrying a weapon for self defense.  I was also sick and tired of being harassed and embarassed in front of everyone.  the media made me look like a god damn psychopath.

Wait till something like this happens to you.  Then you'll understand the types of situations that aspies have to live with.


You were using brass knuckles to attack another person and you obviously have not learned that that is totally unacceptable behaviour. You ought to be totally ashamed of yourself - I have absolutely NO sympathy with you whatsoever. YOU WERE THE BAD GUY. YOU MADE YOURSELF the bad guy - the bully didn't make you so - you did that to YOURSELF.

I wish borstal still existed - and that you were sent to it... but alas this is no longer the case.

A young thug feeling sorry for his poor little diddums self. You get absolutely NO sympathy from me for acting like a dumb thug.

Jason_6404 Wrote:
Wait till something like this happens to you.  Then you'll understand the types of situations that aspies have to live with.


Since I have NEVER carried any concealed weapon... regardless of what I was faced with... getting arrested for such is not likely to happen to me.

You honestly feel you are a special case and that others have not faced repeated ridicule, harrassment and bullying at school and departmental mobbing at work. Think again. But we are not STUPID enough to react in the way YOU did.

I am Appauled at what you wrote supporting murder.

I am appauled at what you did in that link (if it was you).

I am ashamed that you are one who claims to be on the Autistic Spectrum.

I am NOT impressed by you... I am disgusted.

Nobody likes being bullied or harrassed... but many of us aren't dumb enough to start using brass knuckles on somebody.

You delivered the media link yourself as - look what happened to poor little diddums me. So don't start rabbitting on about media and gossip - you delivered it yourself, Jason.

And I thought you meant you were the victim until I read YOUR line about being the weapon carrier.

After a life being bullied, harrassed, mocked and mobbed... I hated myself more than those who acted against me.

When I was mobbed by the department at my old workplace (over the space of THREE years continuous)... I blamed myself for what was happening to me. It was only later, after I learned that other members of staff outside the department had complained to management on my behalf - that I realised that the department were being the wrong doers and I hadn't actually brought it upon myself.

The majority of people who are bullied and harrassed tend to blame themselves, I have learned. Far from going around with brass knuckles and a poor little ole me attitude... the hate turns inwards towards themselves. This results in self harm and suicide in extreme cases. I self harmed.

You are the one who is too low functioning to actually rise above the minds of those he is against. What you did was DUMB.

Jason_6404 Wrote:
oh yes, I'm really high functioning and I think that it's my fault for being bullied and being born an aspie and commiting suicide.  It's nobody's fault but mine that I got totally ****** over.  thats your point of view.

I actually feel bad for you now.  I dont know who brainwashed you but you dont realize that people on the autism spectrum deserve a half decent life.

A life without bullying or being harrassed or neglected, I hope some of you realise this.


I think you have brought getting in trouble with the police and appearing as the 'bad guy' completely upon yourself, and you have nobody else to blame. I hold you in utter contempt for that.

As for being bullied... this isn't the fault of the person who is bullied.

As for being able to actually read what people post to you... you really should brush up on your reading skills.

NO NT should have to expect you, or any other Aspie or Autistic to beat them up for any reason whatsoever (or to kill them). Just like NO AS or HFA or LFA should expect such treatment either.

Yes, it happens. But only because of dumb thugs and bullies. Jason - by behaving the way you did... all you accomplished was to join the thug ranks and add to others fearing aspies and autistics, and thinking us mentally ill rather than what we really are. Largely decent people with a developmental disorder.

I am against attitudes such as your's just as much as I am against the attitudes of bullies. You have made yourself just another thug to be avoided.

Jason_6404 Wrote:
hmmmm how could that have happened??? Tough question for noctavious or w/e his name is.  maybe, just maybe, because I wasnt the bad guy.


You haven't the wit to give me any problems with you. In my book you are the bad guy because you were foolish enough to be carrying a concealed weapon. And you are beneath contempt because of your attitudes clearly written in your first post in this thread... even though you back-peddalled slightly in your second post.

Jason_6404 Wrote:
so explain to me, how could I have all the charges dropped, and proved NOT to be the aggressor and the media still talk bad about me?  I want an answer, I juts hope noctavious is able to understand the question.


Don't you try insulting me - once again you haven't the wit to do so with any success.

Explain to you? My guess is that you got off on a technicality... and unfortunately you learned nothing from the incident.

As for the media STILL talking bad about you - I have not been presented with nor seen any examples of this, except for the link you provided yourself that was written perfectly accurately for the time in which it was written (prior of you escaping your just reward for carrying an illegal weapon).

It is NOT justice, that you got of without your just deserts for carrying such a weapon.

You seem to be a whimperer with a persecution complex... 'oh poor me the world is against me, m'lord. Let's encourage murderers and carry knuckle dusters freely m'lord'.

Jason_6404 Wrote:
Wait untill something like this happens to you, you could be accused of something you had nothing to do with and nobodys gonna beleive you because you cant get your message across the NT way and the media tears you right up!  then I want to hear what you have to say.


I've had fists, and had a knife waved in my face before now... and I got out of the situation without violence. I've had rocks thrown at me also.

You're just a child, Jason. And still childish. Let us hope that you grow up soon.

Jason_6404 Wrote:
I made a name for myself and I am a legend at that school.


lol. And yet you feel the need to boast about it here. lol.  :lol:

Some people are easilly impressed.

I am not in the least bit impressed by you.

Jason_6404 Wrote:
and as for the brass knuckles and everything, that was proven to be SELF-DEFENSE in the court of law.


It was pre-meditated illegal carrying of an offensive weapon.

Obviously you got off on a technicality or mitigating circumstances or some such thing.

Do you still carry concealed, possibly leathal weapons?

Jason_6404 Wrote:
my point was that dont beleive everything you read, especially media gossip.  I know low-functionings are really gullable to gossip (I've delt with many) but try not to jump to conclusions.


You presented that article YOURSELF. You presented it without any povisions whatsoever.

You only started whittering on about gossip and media when the article didn't impress me and make me go all jellied knees in respect of your awful suffering.

You'd say anything to vindicate yourself.

Jason_6404 Wrote:
and I;m still waiting for an explanation from noctavis as to why I am the bad guy when I clearly proved it in a court of law that I was not.


I do not owe you any replies. If I choose to reply then that is my choice not your's.

You have a BAD attitude - as displayed in your first post in this thread. The danger in your attitude is displayed in what you wrote.

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In a way I'm glad that he acted out and killed an NT and punched another one in the face. Showed them that we mean buisness.


That is how innocent you are. You were carrying brass knuckles because you fully intended to beat somebody up. You're no hero. If the judge had known that this was your attitude you may not have got off so lightly.

I also note that your story gets progressively more elaborate. Turning from harrassed, hounded, bullied individual to hero is quite a surprising accomplishment - doesn't usually happen. I find parts of it difficult to believe without corroborating evidence.

Jason_6404 Wrote:
that is very likely to happen, then what will you think about the media?


ROTFLOL... I'd think the media must have had a very dry news day to be bothered with such a trivial incident. lol  :lol:

BTW... the link you posted... http://police.sudbury.on.ca/archive.php?...om=&ucat=&

That's not the media in the normal sense of the word. That's the Greater Sudbury Police Service public news archive. Not exactly the Mail on Sunday, eh?

Added to this, it is very difficult to find this page... since it is not listed in the archive list from 13th September 05 to 5th October 05. I may be wrong but it seems the police have removed it from the listing.

The memory of this must be precious to you.

Jason_6404 Wrote:
if you dont owe me any replies you should have kept your mouth shut when I present my opinion and mind your own buisness.


Oooo. I'm quivering in my boots. lol.

Your opinion was to praise a murderer for stabbing an 'NT' in the presumption that the NT woman had it coming to her.

I started this thread with the news item. Is it not my business when a respondent delivers such an ill-thought-out comment in response to my post?

Jason_6404 Wrote:
if you had the intelligence to realise my point you would understand why I did that.


If you could actually write your case down in a coherent pattern there would have been no problem.

Regardless of my intelligence or lack of it... one thing I certainly am not is psychic... and even if I was, I wouldn't want to be in your head.

And as for asking you to boast about being hailed the hero... I did not ask for such.

Jason_6404 Wrote:
...but if you cant understand the point, then theres no use talking to you. it's like talking to a mentally challenged in a wheelchair.


Oh so you are prejudiced against people unfortunate to be *** and crippled... so much so that you wouldn't talk to them? How civil-minded of you.

Jason_6404 Wrote:
...but I guess you cant give a straight answer either like any your answers.


I cannot be held responsible for the fact you have not the wit to understand my answers to you. lol. Two can play at saying that sort of thing - lol.

You, my witless friend, have only respect for yourself. You think the world owes you. It may be news to you, but the world owes you nothing.

It is surprising you still feel so hard done by since you are a revered local hero now... lol  :lol:  :roll: ...Like I believe that. Maybe a few are somewhat gleeful that you got off after illegally carrying an offensive weapon.

You cannot claim innocence even if you did get let off... since you yourself admit point blank that you have illegally carried a weapon and landed another person into hospital. Self defence is beside the point... you were carrying the offensive weapon BEFORE the incident. And here in the thread... even in your slight reversal, you still condone the murder of a woman.

All I see here is a youth revelling in his own notoriaty and clapping himself on the back while praising a murderer.

Jason_6404 Wrote:
I did write my case in a "coherent pattern", I just tried to change it because you didnt seem to be understanding like any other human would.


You presented the police article and mentioned nothing about the subsequent court case. Then when the article you mentioned was read not in your favour... you turn around and rant like a spoilt brat about unfair media and gossip.

You idiot. You posted the link and without any provision except that you were carrying in self defence.

You attacked an unarmed youth (although bigger than you) with a weapon - FACT.

It was illegal for you to be carrying such an offensive weapon - FACT.

You praised a murderer for killing somebody - FACT.

So you got off, eh. Well bully for you.  :roll: You should count yourself lucky the other guy only got lacerations because you were inefficient with your weapon. Most people would have broken his nose at least - even if not so competant with the weapon. You wouldn't have got off so lightly then, one would hope.

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