09-22-2006, 01:31 AM
09-22-2006, 01:40 AM
According to what I heard on the TV... yes, he was diagnosed following the incident.
I cannot believe that his problem is Aspergers. I consider him a Sociopath... maybe co-morbid with AS admittedly.
I cannot believe that his problem is Aspergers. I consider him a Sociopath... maybe co-morbid with AS admittedly.
09-22-2006, 04:38 PM
#The fREaK! Wrote:
Whoever took a stab at diagnosing him didn't succeed too well.
(I couldn't resist)
(I couldn't resist)
We'll forgive you :wink:
09-22-2006, 06:19 PM
Jason_6404 Wrote:
odds are that he was an aspie but he was being harassed, as an aspie I know that he would not have done that for nothing. His boss problably had it coming.
But of coarse the media made him look real bad and everyone else look like little angels.
In a way I'm glad that he acted out and killed an NT and punched another one in the face. Showed them that we mean buisness.
But of coarse the media made him look real bad and everyone else look like little angels.
In a way I'm glad that he acted out and killed an NT and punched another one in the face. Showed them that we mean buisness.
His boss had being stabbed and killed coming to her!!!!! Your glad the NT was killed???!!!
Words cannot express how appauled I am that you have even thought about writing this let alone actually doing so.
You are EXACTLY the type of foolish talker Autistics DO NOT need to be associated with.
What a foolish foolish thing for you to have written!
09-22-2006, 06:44 PM
Noctivagus Wrote:
His boss had being stabbed and killed coming to her!!!!! Your glad the NT was killed???!!!
Words cannot express how appalled I am that you have even thought about writing this let alone actually doing so.
Words cannot express how appalled I am that you have even thought about writing this let alone actually doing so.
Punk kids talk big. That's how I'm interpreting it. I get the feeling that Jason hasn't been out and about in the big wide world too much.
09-22-2006, 08:37 PM
Dogface Wrote:
Noctivagus Wrote:
His boss had being stabbed and killed coming to her!!!!! Your glad the NT was killed???!!!
Words cannot express how appalled I am that you have even thought about writing this let alone actually doing so.
Words cannot express how appalled I am that you have even thought about writing this let alone actually doing so.
Punk kids talk big. That's how I'm interpreting it. I get the feeling that Jason hasn't been out and about in the big wide world too much.
Its not exactly what I would like to see written in an Autistic forum where everybody can read it, though 
09-22-2006, 08:50 PM
herczy Wrote:
Of course it would be taken out of context, so everybody outside the forum would think that the members act like this every time. :?
I think taken 'in context' it is shameful in any case... more shameful indeed... because the context is a real life crime and tragedy.
The writer (Jason), whether immature or not, is certainly NOT the sort of Aspie I'd want my name associated with in the least.
And such stupidity can be an encouragement to someone who might actually go out and do such a thing, whether Jason is such a person or not.
Whether an idiot or not, he is advocating a form of terrorism.
09-22-2006, 08:56 PM
Ryuujin Wrote:
(Is equally appauled by Jason's comment, but, nuff said).
Anyway, I saw this article on Sky News and was dismayed they tried paint it that he did this BECAUSE he's an Aspie, and that it was a mitigating circumstance.
Anyway, I saw this article on Sky News and was dismayed they tried paint it that he did this BECAUSE he's an Aspie, and that it was a mitigating circumstance.
I have complained about Jason's post by PM.
As far as I can see, the Judge and 'experts' saw his 'Autism' as mitigating the crime. This is one time that the diagnosis (after the fact) has been used by the legal team, believed by the Judge, and, of course, reported in the press.
This time, it does not appear to be the press playing things up.
09-23-2006, 05:51 PM
i hope this doesn't mean that autistics will now be known as violent killers. i try not to be viloent and i have self control....will they claim autism robs people of self control? i know alot of non autistic people who have no self control what so ever.
and the guy, i think he's something else. i bet they just digaosed him as autistic as some kind of master plan to make us look bad. they want us gone forever.
and the guy, i think he's something else. i bet they just digaosed him as autistic as some kind of master plan to make us look bad. they want us gone forever.
09-24-2006, 07:08 PM
Jason_6404 Wrote:
tell me, what motive would an aspie have to kill anyone? I would never kill an innocent person, NT or not.
You are not all aspies and not all aspies are you. Not all aspies like cheese, or hate the color purple, or think abortion is okay. You may have an internal moral code that prohibits the taking of another's life. But we are not all alike. Some aspie might just fly off the handle and kill someone, just as some NT might do the same thing. Extrapolating from our own experiences can sometimes be useful in understanding someone else, but sometimes not. Besides which, aspies don't have some kind of magic immunity to the mental and anger management problems NTs have.
That is not to say there aren't causes. Perhaps it was bullying. Perhaps it was parental pressure. Perhaps it was clinical depression, or hormones, or psychosis, or maybe one too many things just went wrong in a very short period of time and he lost it.
Acknowledging that a terrible action has a contributing cause and excusing it because of that cause are two entirely different things. Even if you're for eye-for-an-eye punishment, bullying wouldn't carry a death penalty. Very few things other than murder would, from that view.
09-25-2006, 05:02 PM
Jason_6404 Wrote:
well I guess you guys dont know what its like to be bullied and harrassed. why else would he have done that?
Been bullied--probably worse than you have ever even IMAGINED, boyo.I have the permanently mis-shapen nose and slightly mis-aligned forearm to go with it. So, what's your point, boyo?
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Do you guys agree what they said about AS in general?
Certainly not, and that still does not justify your statement regarding the murder victim.
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what would have happened if he didn't act out, he would have gotten fired and all the NTs would be laughing and would have gotten away with f****** another aspie.
Stupidity explains the world far better than conspiracy. It's quite delusional to think that there is some kind of active conspiracy against "aspies".
09-25-2006, 05:07 PM
Jason_6404 Wrote:
OK, well, I guess you like being bullied? But not all of us are like that, some of us actually care about our freedom and DONT find it pleasurable to be someones b1tch.
Not in the least, "diddums"--some of us just don't think that the whole world revolves around us. I realize that you're just a punk kid who refuses to see beyond his own nose, but this is ridiculous.
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You tell me, do you agree with an entire workplace harrassing someone cause he's an aspie?
Cite the evidence that such harassment actually occurred and you're not just making it all up to fit your fantasies.
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and did you read the news article about me? How do you explain that?
I read the link you provided. Quite dry, quite boring. No portrayal as a "psychopath". Just one ordinary punk kid.
09-25-2006, 05:10 PM
Jason_6404 Wrote:
tell me, what motive would an aspie have to kill anyone? I would never kill an innocent person, NT or not.
How do you know that the murderer is an "aspie" and doesn't just have a good lawyer? How do you know that the murderer, even if an "aspie" likewise is not also a sociopath/psychopath? Can you show me the evidence. "Aspies" can be complete assholes. "Aspies" can also be sociopaths. The two are independent of each other.
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and here again, you dont have the intellegience to think outside the little box of gossip, you still talk according to the media, that I was the bad guy, is that a jelly bean or what. thats how I can tell whos really low functioning.
Or maybe you don't have the intelligence to see that the entire world doesn't revolve around your teenage angst.
09-25-2006, 05:12 PM
Jason_6404 Wrote:
Gareth - actually you know what happened with the charges against me, they were all DROPPED and the other guy got charged with assault!
hmmmm how could that have happened??? Tough question for noctavious or w/e his name is. maybe, just maybe, because I wasnt the bad guy.
hmmmm how could that have happened??? Tough question for noctavious or w/e his name is. maybe, just maybe, because I wasnt the bad guy.
Okay, so now you're just a liar. You said that YOU were the one being portrayed as "the bad guy" over this matter. Now you're saying JUST THE OPPOSITE.
So, which is the lie?
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so explain to me, how could I have all the charges dropped, and proved NOT to be the aggressor and the media still talk bad about me?
I read the link you provided--no portrayal, just a very dry account, with nobody identified.
Looks to me like you don't like it that nobody else wants to drink your fine whine.
09-25-2006, 05:14 PM
Jason_6404 Wrote:
OK maybe I made a mistake when I said the media is still talking bad about me
No, you lied. You flat-out lied.