I had a brainstorm, that could make a huge impact with two of our goals, 1. being the official recognition of Asperger Syndrome as a minority group, and 2. To protest pre natal testing.
We need a million aspie march to the white house.... We're gonna hafta get aggressive in way of civil rights, I think we should focus on previous methods mostly by early feminist (before feminism became feminaziism) and Malcom X. Theyr not gonna listen and we're not gonna be heard by doing flower child protests, that would be the mistake of giving the opposition more credit than they deserve. Theyr not gonna give up their biological insecurity-ridden prejudices that easy (no offense to NTs who aren't aspie-phoebes who might be on here, my point is NTs as a people on the whole are often mentally enslaved by biases, and they'll fight tooth and nail to defend them because of their design, they need to feel dominant, which is something that needs to be bred out of them... Autism is evolution, not saying this neccessarily makes an aspie better than a NT, though often it does, morally and intellectually.... Even that being said, I'm not advocating superior rights for aspies, just equality). I'm totally in support of this idea though, aspies from all over America should set a distant date in advance and we should all march to the white house, and protest. Does anyone else think this is a good idea?
The White House is a bit far for me... plus I haven't practiced my water walking mutation yet...
Have you tried contacting Dr. Xavier? :wink:
I'm afraid I don't believe in Punctuated Equilibrium either for that matter. I'm not a hopeful monster... I'm a human bean - lol :wink:
I suppose I could go to London and march on Paul Whitehouse... but he might object to the bruises.
Perhaps if you are going to try and organise such a thing... it would be kind to include non-Autistic groups who could also fall foul of screening...
It's a good idea snake, the problem is that it would be very hard to get 1 hundred aspies and auties together in one place, let alone a million.
I think however many people could do it, it would make a difference and could help though.
There is precedent. Some time ago the Down Syndrome Screening conference was disrupted by a groups of people with Down Syndrome. This statement by Anya Souza has got to be my favorite two sentences of all time: "It's doctors like you who want to test pregnant women and stop people like me being born. You can't abort me now, can you?"
The group doesn't really have to be all that big. Just enough to make noise. I dislike a number of the statements snake makes about breeding and evolution, but the idea of an organized protest is sound.
The problem arises, however, of exclusion within the autistic community. If it is limited to verbal autistics, it will fail. If it is limited to non-disruptive autistics, it will fail. If, however, we include a representative cross-section of the autistic community, and even bring in other "disorders" like AD(H)D, Tourette's, Down Syndrome, and the like, we have a chance of making a good impact on disability in general, rather than just changing which disabilities are okay and which are not okay.
Perhaps we can cooperate with the people who organized autreat and the people who organized autscape. There are orgnization and cooperation abilities in our community, just like there are people enslaved by bias in our community. We see both on this very board, by even the staunchest aspies and auties.
This is not an idea that should be ignored!
It took only three people with Down Syndrome and a handful of their supporters to turn an international conference on its head and earn them a front page spotlight for months!
If three people with Down Syndrome can do this, imagine what we could do? Our own movement is far larger and more organized, and the cure-autism groups get far more publicity than the International Down Syndrome Screening Conference could ever dream of!
If only twenty or so of us intruded on a large CAN or NAAR conference, just imagine the publicity we could get out of that?
Again I implore, do not ignore or dismiss this idea. This is something that needs to be planned further. We can only get so noticed if we stick to nothing but blogs, forums, and emails than we will never gain the attention we need.
As powerful a tool as the internet is, it's still no substitute for showing up in person.
This is not an idea that should be ignored!
It took only three people with Down Syndrome and a handful of their supporters to turn an international conference on its head and earn them a front page spotlight for months!
If three people with Down Syndrome can do this, imagine what we could do? Our own movement is far larger and more organized, and the cure-autism groups get far more publicity than the International Down Syndrome Screening Conference could ever dream of!
If only twenty or so of us intruded on a large CAN or NAAR conference, just imagine the publicity we could get out of that?
Again I implore, do not ignore or dismiss this idea. This is something that needs to be planned further. We can only get so noticed if we stick to nothing but blogs, forums, and emails than we will never gain the attention we need.
As powerful a tool as the internet is, it's still no substitute for showing up in person.
I agree, we might only meet limited sucess at first, but if there is one group of people at the right place and time, then autistic rights would become a big issue overnight. Small protests and online action would be noted in some circles, but to alot of media attention would need some thing else.
Is anyone in the US willing to gather and demonstrate? Can this be formally arranged?
AD(H)D is just something psychiatrists and pharmecueitical companies made up to sale pills. It's not a real condition. What happens is (usually wealthy) parents to to a counselor complaining "my kid is too hyper, we need a pill to put him/her on" or something to that effect, so they create false disorders like AD(H)D so they can prescribe them a pill, which in turn makes money for the psychiatric institution and the pharmecuetical companies.
The kid is somewhat brainwashed into thinking they are disabled, and sometimes (not all the time) they'll go around with this attitude like "pity me I'm disabled, I have AD(H)D", but there is nothing holding them back from living a normal life. In fact people with AD(H)D are overlooked as being disabled and can live at the top of the social and political heirarchies. Most of them don't even collect a check if theyr diagnosed.
I assume you have a very limited experience then, and are not a parent.
Not everyone lives in America, it is very, very hard to even get to see a doctor in many places.
ADHD does exist, in kids and adults. What you say is no better than the crap that comes from people who say autism doesn't exist and it's an excuse for lazy kids and stupid parents.
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Also see this http://www.aspiesforfreedom.com/phpBB2/v...php?t=4675
I would love to attend any sort of rally in the place I live
I would do more, but I keep hitting a wall when it comes to NTs stubborness to hold their biases. I think I'd just keep getting mad at them, and upset that they're so ignorant and moralisticaly devoid. I really like what Anya Souza said. I wish I had the guts to have said that at the last CAN meeting I went to.
Yeah, I really did belive they were trying to help us at first. I'm much more knowledgeable about their true agenda now.
I do not think that ADHD is the same level of difference that autism is, I would compare it with dyslexia in that people need some help, but it is not held against them like autism is.
There have been 4 real life protests already by members.
People are actively doing things in real life and online.
Do something yourself if you can.
Advertise
Advertise
Advertise
Contact local support groups and attempt to hijack them (if you can)
And advertise.
Did I mention that advertising is good?
But advertising takes money. Lots of money. And aspies and auties have a harder time getting stable jobs than NTs (I know I do). I've been working on a creative plan to generate revenue solely through the internet that would be perfect for aspies, but I'd need at least a couple hundred people to make it work. PM me if you're interested...
Putting posters up in a library doesnt cost money.