08-24-2006, 12:48 AM
08-31-2006, 03:27 PM
I have had too much trouble with Fantasy, so I am switching topics to Autistic Pride.
Hope that's OK with everyone.
Hope that's OK with everyone.
09-01-2006, 08:34 PM
Quote:
Leg = rege
How is that pronounced? (i.e, is the 'g' a hard or soft sound?)
Quote:
Hunt = sad
Duplicate #1. Sad = have sung/sang. Pick something else.
Quote:
Stone = eben
This made me wonder: Should we avoid using 'e' to start any word? After all, 'e' is our negative. It could be confusing to have words that begin with 'e' but are not negative. Of course, if we follow the logical course of that thought, we would avoid all words ending in 'l', 'n', or 'd'.
Just tossing the thought out there.
Quote:
I reckon that, just as brand names will be retained in Autlang, so should words which are international i.e. they are the same in all languages or virtually all languages.
Examples are telephone, internet, chocolate, coffee. Given the preference for words with 2, 3 and no more than 4 letters so far, these could be respectively in Autlang:
fon
net
tsoko/tsok/soko/sok
kofi/kof
I had this word when I saw another such word in the word list - pizza. I propose, as it's also a word understood in all languages, it should be in Autlang 'piza', 'piz' or 'pits'.
Examples are telephone, internet, chocolate, coffee. Given the preference for words with 2, 3 and no more than 4 letters so far, these could be respectively in Autlang:
fon
net
tsoko/tsok/soko/sok
kofi/kof
I had this word when I saw another such word in the word list - pizza. I propose, as it's also a word understood in all languages, it should be in Autlang 'piza', 'piz' or 'pits'.
May I suggest 'choko' or 'chok' for chocolate. I like the others. I suggest we use 'piza' for pizza.
Congrats, I only found one duplicate! Of course, as more lists come in it will get harder and harder and I am sure I will start to miss them as words I'm not familiar with will begin to duplicate.
09-01-2006, 08:38 PM
Amy, I just noticed your link in your signature which says, "Ji la autlang, ra ki?" Shouldn't it be, "Ji la autlang, zo ra ki?"
Sorry to be nitpicky....
Sorry to be nitpicky....
09-02-2006, 09:05 PM
Amy, It should be "zo ra ki" because that means "do you". Without the 'zo' it is just "you". So currently your link reads, "I speak Autlang, you?" not "I speak Autlang, do you?" If you want to change the grammar so 'do' is not necessary, that's OK, but I think it would be a bit too confusing.
09-03-2006, 01:09 PM
OK, Amy.
Dave: Thanks. That's what I meant when I said I would have difficulty with words I wasn't as familiar with. For the most part those are words you came up with, so it is natural that you are more likely to notice them. I'm working on memorizing as much of Autlang's existing words as possible to prevent me missing things like that.
Dave: Thanks. That's what I meant when I said I would have difficulty with words I wasn't as familiar with. For the most part those are words you came up with, so it is natural that you are more likely to notice them. I'm working on memorizing as much of Autlang's existing words as possible to prevent me missing things like that.
09-27-2006, 12:49 PM
Snake321,
Qo and co are pronounced differently. The 'q', as we disscused earlier in this thread I believe, has an implied 'u' so that, spelled english-style, it would be quo. And so qo is pronounced quo, not co.
Understand?
Qo and co are pronounced differently. The 'q', as we disscused earlier in this thread I believe, has an implied 'u' so that, spelled english-style, it would be quo. And so qo is pronounced quo, not co.
Understand?
11-06-2006, 10:46 PM
I'd just like to note that 'ew' and 'oo' sounds can be represented by a single letter, u, instead of two.
Thus 'they', 'rew', becomes 'ru'.
Thus 'they', 'rew', becomes 'ru'.
11-07-2006, 03:12 PM
Quote:
Do Autistics see time differently? If so, is the difference uniform enough to consider devising our own 'clock?' (only half-serious about that...)
yqueen,
There DOES seem to be a tendency with autistics to have difficulty understanding the passage of time, but that doesn't exactly lend itself to making a new clock.
12-11-2006, 10:15 PM
Does anyone know what it is about language that is so hard for some auties to learn? If we could avoid that aspect, or simplify it at least, we could create a language they could learn. The asumption seems to be that they simply lack the "language widget" or whatever it is in our brains that allows us to learn to speak; but I doubt that that's true, especially as recent research has all but debunked the idea that something specific in our brains allows us to learn languages.
If a sign language version of Autlang would be easiest for those auties who can't speak well/at all, I wholeheartedly aprove of inventing one. However, I'd heard that even that can be challenging for some people.
It requires further thought.
If a sign language version of Autlang would be easiest for those auties who can't speak well/at all, I wholeheartedly aprove of inventing one. However, I'd heard that even that can be challenging for some people.
It requires further thought.
12-16-2006, 02:34 PM
Drifter,
Those are really good. Just a few things:
I don't think 'shame' can be 'efa', because 'e' is a prefix meaning 'not' and it could get confusing. I don't know what 'fa' is or if we have a word that is 'fa' but we probably will eventually and then 'shame' and 'not fa' would be the same word.
How do you pronounce pikeat?
Those are really good. Just a few things:
I don't think 'shame' can be 'efa', because 'e' is a prefix meaning 'not' and it could get confusing. I don't know what 'fa' is or if we have a word that is 'fa' but we probably will eventually and then 'shame' and 'not fa' would be the same word.
How do you pronounce pikeat?
02-01-2007, 02:10 PM
I would just like to say:
I am glad to see that the argument over whether or not Autlang is "worthwhile" has mostly ended.
However, if you STILL would like to continue arguing or just throw in your two cents, please PLEASE make a new thread on that topic and leave this one as a place to brainstorm the ACTUAL LANGUAGE.
Thank You.
I am glad to see that the argument over whether or not Autlang is "worthwhile" has mostly ended.
However, if you STILL would like to continue arguing or just throw in your two cents, please PLEASE make a new thread on that topic and leave this one as a place to brainstorm the ACTUAL LANGUAGE.
Thank You.
03-31-2007, 01:25 AM
Sequoyah,
I for one don't know what those are. I think you'll find that most of those in this project don't know more than the basics of language crafting. If you look and find we're missing something, go ahead and point it out- we'll all be grateful for the help!
I for one don't know what those are. I think you'll find that most of those in this project don't know more than the basics of language crafting. If you look and find we're missing something, go ahead and point it out- we'll all be grateful for the help!
05-25-2007, 01:13 AM
syntaxfree Wrote:
Annoying as this may seem, that doesn't do much for me. I'd expect an autlang not to replace english (and other natural languages) but to add words for concepts that are difficult to express due to the NT-oriented evolution of natural languages.
This Ballastexistenz post struck very very very very close to home. THIS is the stuff I want in an autlang:
http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=340
This Ballastexistenz post struck very very very very close to home. THIS is the stuff I want in an autlang:
http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=340
Well, it IS a project in it's first stages, which has been largely abandoned by people who lost interest or are too busy (ME!). It's supposed to have words like that in it by the time we're done, but obviously, we're not yet!
04-27-2008, 11:56 PM
I don't really have time to be involved in this right now, but it just occured to me... we never came up with a system of conjugation for verbs in autlang. What are we going to do about that?