Aspies For Freedom

Looks like another article, where they're claiming the entire spectrum acts like those with classic Autism.

i've had trouble tying shoes that still remains to this day, i think i was in high school when i started tying my shoes on a regular basis, and i do it via the shortcut, not the way most people tie their shoes, too tough for me.

but there were plenty of complex things i got years before my peers did, like mental tasks and algerba was a breeze while my peers were struggling...i barley studied for math tests in high school, just did homework and got a's.  but physical tasks were tougher.

also, my handwrting has gotten better over time, but it was pretty bad in grade school, and still can be illegiable if i'm writing really fast or something...it's readable, but not the prettiest handwriting in the class.

the article notes the autistics were good in spelling and grammar, my spelling was just horrible for a while and still kinda is, but with the wonders of techology, i don't really have to worry about it as much.

but back to the article, i think people are realizing that autistics are diffrent, and it's not just soically diffrent for us, but that we have alot of diffrent traits.  but no, it's not faulty wiring...it's just diffrent wiring.

I'm not seeing much (referring only to the things they have right) in these articles and research that a person couldn't figure out from joining a forum like this.  The complex tasks comment, I think is overgeneralized.  My son is excellent at many complex tasks; it's just ones that require a combination of entirely difficult functional skills that are difficult for him; things that may need to leap different sections of the brain, perhaps.  Tying shoes, riding a bike.  Vision, hands, etc all having to work together.

It's painfully obvious that the brain of an autistic is going to vary in several ways. The only difference with performing this research is in isolating specific patterns of neural activity and comparing to an NT brain.

I've read that Andy Warhol was known to habitually leave his shoelaces untied (as does one of my own kids), and he did not know how to knot a tie. This didn't stop him from becoming obscenely wealthy and a legend in his own lifetime. Warhol's fame is going to last a whole lot longer than 15 minutes, while most NTs will dwell in obscurity and mediocrity their whole lives. So some autistic kids can't tie their shoelaces; who gives a rat's?

Warhol was a knob though.  Most autistics will dwell in not only obscurity but depression.  No sense lying to ourselves.  Life isn't easy.

"I'd rather be happy than right any day" -- Slartibartfast.

Well you're obviously never going to be happy, with that huge autistic self-hate complex of yours, Fructose (if you are really an autistic :wink: ), and you're wrong most of the time too. I think you should decide which is the most important for you, and make an attempt to reach that goal.

Sadly, I'm right most of the time.

Fame isn't everything, Lili.

Fructose wrote

How would you know? Are you or have you been famous yourself, or are you doing that classic NT trick of presuming to know if other people are satisfied or unsatisfied with their own lives?

You talk about your famous heroes a lot and ignore many of the unfortunate points of everyday Aspergers.  Just something I noticed.

I have fairly famous friends, and apart from finding it slightly easier to get casual sex, they're no happier than anyone.

There are people who become famous incidentally by pursuing their interests or career, and there are those who value and/or pursue fame as an end in itself. Warhol (aspie) and Morrissey (probable aspie) seemed to be somewhat preoccupied with the idea of fame. Perhaps for some people fame (or infamy) is happiness, or is an important goal.