Conlang ok, I'm confused here. Just who are you angry with?
I believe Conlang is addressing Gerard, who made rather immature statements earlier in the thread regarding pushing people out of 'airlocks'. One science fiction series too many for that person, methinks.
Regardless of the science fictional and immature basis for such a statement... it, in reality, would be an awfully nasty thing to wish upon anybody. A remarkably horrible and frightening death, whether pushed into vacuum or water.
We'll give NTs a break when they understand us and give us a break and stop causing *** like bullying us and all the other things they do to us.
We'll give NTs a break when they understand us and give us a break and stop causing *** like bullying us and all the other things they do to us.
Many NTs give us breaks. Few NTs are bullies... few humans are bullies - though it is a large minority.
Frankly I don't want concessions or breaks given to me because I'm Autistic... all I require is a little understanding.
So the NTs need to give you a break before you give them a break. Frankly I'd sooner display my superiority by being charitable towards them... rather than displaying inferiority in being unable to deliver what is asked for (a break) unless it is delivered to me first.
One stops being a victim within, before one succeeds, not afterwards.
Are you a superior or inferior human being?
I think it might be partly because this is a support site, so people often come to vent about their negative experiences, and to get understanding for those. You don't need a support group for things that are going well-unless you want to put it as inspiration and hope for others, that is.
These people accompany each of our steps forward with an equal step backward. It sickens me. They anger me in ways I cannot begin to describe. I will not give NT's a break. They're calling down the biggest thunder in the history of earth, and I'll be laughing my head off when the time comes for them to reap the whirlwind.
And making sweeping generalisations about NTs is going to help? I was starting to wish I hadn't read this thread, so thankyou Alison for your positive comment at the end.
But you have to remember that in general, NTs probably understand less about aspies than aspies do about NTs. Lots of them have never met an aspie, or if they have didn't know it. They're unlikely to know much about Asperger's, unless they have family members affected by it. Hence, I keep having to explain to friends why my bf is unlikely to come to parties, why it's special that he makes eye contact with me, etc etc etc. And once they know what's going on they're normally a lot better about it. But standing by and condemning them for ignorance isn't going to help. The only solution, surely, is education?
I'm an NT so you may rip into me if you like, however I would prefer that you recognised someone who is trying to understand, and helped me towards that.
well, yes, thats kind of what I meant. It might not strictly be a support site, but it does get used that way.
I'm an NT so you may rip into me if you like, however I would prefer that you recognised someone who is trying to understand, and helped me towards that.
I, for one, am not going to rip into you Anna.
Here... have a big smilie...
DW_A_mom, I like what your doing.... It is important to teach children young about nuero diversity... If you wait too late they'll never learn. A child's mind is impressionable, once they get older they tend to become more rigid and set in their ways.
You don't see what I'm actually saying: I don't care about curebies and I don't care about people wanting to be themselves, to me both are extremes and both are stupid.
You say it takes work to improve society, but that just happens to be exactly what I said as well. Do we even disagree at all, or is it just that you're offended by how I formulate my opinion?
This is all about being different from each other imo...what for you guys is improvement for us Nts maybe be a nightmare a source of fear and frustration... What is improvement for one (NT or AS) may not be for another... So learning to live with each other, respecting one's beliefs and cultures is still a step we all have to develop! especially taking into consideration some commets here...
How can one ask for tolerance and understanding when you don't have and do it yourself?
How can one ask for tolerance and understanding when you don't have and do it yourself?
I totally agree 100%
Why did the NT cross the road?
Because there were more NTs on the other side! :lol:
Why did the Autistic cross the road?
Because there were less people on the other side! :lol:
Many NTs give us breaks. Few NTs are bullies... few humans are bullies - though it is a large minority.
Frankly I don't want concessions or breaks given to me because I'm Autistic... all I require is a little understanding.
So the NTs need to give you a break before you give them a break. Frankly I'd sooner display my superiority by being charitable towards them... rather than displaying inferiority in being unable to deliver what is asked for (a break) unless it is delivered to me first.
One stops being a victim within, before one succeeds, not afterwards.
Are you a superior or inferior human being?
Good post.
Surely the point is this:
Think about encountering someone who doesn't seem that responsive, doesn't talk much, doesn't make eye contact, whatever. They don't know the reason, whether the person is autistic to an extent, has some other issue, or is just being rude. How are they to know straight away? And why would they persevere with them in that instance? You can't persevere with everyone!
The thing about human communication is that often people aren't that bothered about much. It's not good enough to be pleasant and polite, because lots of people are pleasant and polite, NT/Aspie or otherwise. If you meet someone who you want to continue to communicate with - you've gotta stand out from the crowd as good in some way, whatever your circumstances, surely?
If I meet someone who doesn't immediately grab me and effort would be required to see them again, I won't bother, and neither would others with me. It's not about whether you're NT/aspie/anything.
The onus is on NTs to understand us as best they can. But the onus is even more on us to put ourselves across as best we can to give them the best chance of doing that.
Our sole minor problem is that we express ourselves a tiny bit different to the norm which is misintepreted according to social standards, and can think a bit differently. (I'm sure NTs share aspie-type thoughts sometimes just as sometimes we share theirs, this is a spectrum we're talking about rather than a discrete separate entity, much like how males and females share most emotions rather than them being mutually exclusive).
Inferior citizens? Absolutely not. We just need to show our qualities a bit better. :smile:
Do borderlines find it easy to make friends on both sides or hard?
Why did the NT cross the road?
Because there were more NTs on the other side! :lol:
This is great!!
Well i'm gonna counter that and say veeryone should just get on, i'm not gonna have a go at NT people any more than I would anyone else. If I have reason to dislike you i'll say so and i'll tell you why.
Do people with depression have a go at those that don't have it?
Don't create an us vs them scenario, what is the point?