I have the same experience.
NT'S, I thought we were all the same, human beings.
not aspies, auties or nt's, humans.
Amy wrote
sadly all nts don't share this view.
To me its sad that you have that view about us nts,we are not all the same , some are just ignorant.
Amy wrote
sadly all nts don't share this view.
To me its sad that you have that view about us nts,we are not all the same , some are just ignorant.
It's very typical, indeed, one might even say "neurotypical" to respond to hostility by making hostile over-generalizations--or at least that is what the lessons of history treat us. Guess some Aspies are a lot more "NT" than they would like to admit...
o.k then, if amy only meant 'some' nt's and not 'all', then i forgive her (ha!ha!)
It is based on trading, on exchanging. Through the lens of trading the behaviour of
many people can be described, a mental model can be built.
Y'know, you've managed to independently come up with one of the more respectable anthropological models to explain much of human society.
Is trading required? What if there is no trade? How would a social environment be
without trading rules? Paradise on earth is an utopia
Okay, slight question--by "utopia" do you mean what is usually meant by "utopia" or do you mean "an impossible place"? Because the most typical English denotation of "utopia" is a synonym for "paradise on earth".
Social trading can be an attempt to establish a set of sustainable rules.
Not only can it be, it already is, according to a lot of social scientists. The problem I always had is that the most common "currency" seems to usually be invisible to me.
If someone can describe sustainable alternative rules, to use as tool to establish distance
between self and other, I am open to suggestions.
The only possible complication that I see is that a large number of people seem to be quite offended when the fundamental basis of their social interaction is laid so bare. They like to tell themselves that they are infinitely selfless, that what they do is not done on the basis of any sort of "social trade". To complicate matters further, the people who most vocally advocate such theories outside the social sciences tend to do so on the basis of advocating unlimited personal selfishness as the only true good. Only get what you can wrest out of everyone else and give back as little as you possibly can--see also Objectivism.
I haven't posted on here in forever, but I just want to say something.
When I've been on this forum, I've seen some people rip NT's, seemingly calling NT's bad people. Well, let me just tell you guys something. There ARE good NT people in this world. My best friends are NT. The people that I would give everything for, are NT. Almost everybody that I've gotten close to and have stayed close to me, are NT. And guess what? They've accepted me for who I am, including my Asperger's. So, before you call an NT a bad person, just know that, they can be accepting, and they can be great people and the best of friends.
I utterly agree. My wife is NT and so is my best friend in real life.
On the other hand I have encountered some Aspies/Auties who are really quite vile.
Being NT does not mean you are a bad person, just as being Autistic doesn't mean you are a good person.
NT's are overwhelmingly evil beings. Even if you think they're good, one can turn in a second. Trusting them is bad unless you're damn, damn sure, in which case you better be ready to completely lose your faith in that person at any given moment. Bastards.
Sir/Madam...
Please bear in mind that by saying what you just did, you are insulting my wife, my mother, my best friend, my Son's dear Portage worker, my daughter's one-to-one worker... and thousands and thousands of other wonderful NT people.
Now I presume that it is not your intention to insult my loved ones, but I would ask that you widen your horizons and do not let yourself fall prey to prejudice.
So if an NT is too lazy to improve him/herself they can go straight out the airlock for all I care.
Well lets hope you lead by example.
I mean about the improvements and not about the jumping out of an airlock.
So if an NT is too lazy to improve him/herself they can go straight out the airlock for all I care.
That's an incredibly ignorant thing to say.
I suppose it gives he, himself plenty of easy room for improvement rather than having to work hard at it :wink:
I'm new to this whole Asperger's/Autism millieu; but I've almost maxed out every online Asperger's test I have found through Aspies for Freedom. That is even after an unconscious effort (I suspect) to fudge my answers in favor of being an NT. But, Asperger's Syndrome sure explains a lot.
My questions about so called NT's is this. 1)How do you tell the difference between a decent NT and a good Con Artist. 2) Can a genuine Aspie be a Con Artist with any/all of the necessary skills. and finally 3) Can an Aspie be diagnoised as a sociopath?
I have come to the conclusion that instead of carrying my lamp throught the world, looking for decent NT's, I feel much safer hanging out with my horse. I do much better and feel safer around those of another species that are bigger than I am and out weigh me by over one thousand pounds.
I will most certainly NOT give NT's a break. I don't entitle myself to breaks, and I see no reason to grant them what I do not grant myself.
This I can get behind.
So if an NT is too lazy to improve him/herself they can go straight out the airlock for all I care.
On the mark. The matter is one of how each individual decides to act, within said individual's capacity, not a matter of lumping all members of a group into a falsely homogeneous model. After all, isn't it being so very "neurotypical" to presume that all "NTs" are the same?
If people don't know anything bout it, they aren't going to react apropriately. Which is more effective, pissing and moaning about how people are ignorant or working to inform them?
I stated, "The matter is one of how each individual decides to act, within said individual's capacity", and "capacity" includes knowledge. It is not logical to presume appropriate acts by those who lack knowledge. Do you read what is written before you respond?
That post seems somewhat immature to me.
ppl in here are fanatics.
What is a "fanatic"? Let's see, a "fanatic" would be someone who is not happy to let the majority subculture steamroller him? A "fanatic" is someone who wants the same level of individual consideration paid to his own foibles that he is expected to give to the majority of other people?
A reasonable man alters himself to his surroundings.
An unreasonable man alters his surroundings.
All social progress ultimately comes from the unreasonable.