Aspies For Freedom

Some can, some can't. People here refer to their experiences, and to NTs, thinking of those who fit into the latter category. That doesn't automatically mean that they don't understand that there are ones belonging to the former, even in the cases where they, in their experience, have found them to be scarce.

NT's are overwhelmingly evil beings. Even if you think they're good, one can turn in a second. Trusting them is bad unless you're damn, damn sure, in which case you better be ready to completely lose your faith in that person at any given moment. Bastards.

We are all humans, but different kinds of them, every individual a unique model of varying similarity to every other. NTs and non-NTs is a half-arsed distinction to make, but as a generalization, it works. But then, that goes for most distinctions that can be made.

I read the tequila comment as a joke, in that cheap tequila distorts your vision of the world and that distortion would explain the cited poster's highly negative perception.  But, dogface will have to say if that is what he really meant.

I'm not that good with "getting" jokes, overall.

Well, I consider myself an NT more than not and while I have had some difficulties in communication on this board that are alien to my previous internet experience (footnote) I hope that the majority of posters here don't consider me to be completely devoid of understanding and acceptance.

My son knows there are jerks out there, but he also knows scores and scores of good people.  He is mainstreamed at an elementary school that embraced the Autistic special day class that was reassigned to our campus last year.  Ask the parents and teachers of that class - they will tell you the children at my son's school are amazing at accepting and understanding their kids, and it has been a huge blessing (and, sadly, surprise) compared to their last location.

I know it isn't like that everywhere.  But I believe it is more a matter of education than evilness.

My son has had some rough spots, but we can usually work through them with the children involved.  Once the kids understand that his brain works a little different, and that certain things they take for granted are difficult for him, they are much kinder.  Even my son's sworn worst enemy is being nice to him, now.  That once mean child seems to have simply matured.

I firmly believe that if you give out good things to the world, good things will eventually return to you.  People react to what they are given.  Even if they have a difficult time understanding at first that what you are trying to send out is good, they can eventually "get" it, and then it comes back.  Not a perfect formula, of course, because truly evil people do exist, but more often than not I've found it works.  Not just for me, but also for my son.  People ADORE him.

Alright, so many of you think this is foolish drivel.  Try it.  It might work.

If you want to believe the world is evil, it will become that way in your experience, more often than not.  We often create what we believe.

I know many of you have bad experiences in your past, and perhaps even in your present.  I've read enough to understand that.  But don't let that taint your view of everyone.

As an NT, I don't want you making assumptions about me any more than you want me making assumptions about you.

Debbie

Footnote:  I've always been the peacemaker on other boards, funny, isn't it?  But learning what doesn't "work" with you all is really good information for me, since my son thinks more like the members of this board than he does like most people I know.

Interesting.  That may be part of it.  But the trade is also more immediate:  positive interaction with other human beings very simply makes me feel good at the moment and that feeling lingers for quite a while after it has concluded.  I need connection to other people to feel energetic and interested in things.  It's like the sun is to a flower; take it away, and it wilts.

I find that it's only a minority of NT's who have nasty attitudes towards Aspies or anyone else who is "different" in some way, but the vast majority of NT's are decent people.

I find it depends on how obvious it is for an NT that you are different in some kind and what social class of population that person is from.

With high social status and usually caring people:

If you are looking/acting almost as if you are NT yourself (like I did for many years) and you do have some social behavior problems, they might think you are a rude NT and treat you bad for what they think is rude behavior. That's what I experienced a lot and it was part of the problems I had with my husband.

If it is obvious that you have problems adapting, they might try to help you and accept that you are different. That's what I experience now, when I tell people that I have AS and explain what it is (usually by first telling them about my son - because his behavioral problems are obvious).


With low social status people:

If it is obvious that you have problems, they probably would go razzing you and it does not make a difference if they know you have AS (and even if they understand what that mean) or if not. If it is not obvious and if you are a good talker and can pretend to face their aggressions/razzing and "hit back" (verbally), you might be able to avoid bigger problems. But this depends on the willingly of those people for bodyly aggressions.

This is, if you are not having the social status made on the financial status. Often it's people who have a good income have a better social status and low income a low status, but even low income people can be very nice and caring!

So it's more a type of people, then a special social status/group.

And I found, that a lot of religious people (no fanatics, but people who really work in their religious group and not only call themselfes religious) do actually care - even if you are not religious or of another religion than themselfes.

Sibylle

That's an incredibly ignorant thing to say.  Did it even occur to you that not everybody has the same abilities you do?  Let alone access to the same resources.  Your statement is the same one being made by all those NT's you're so pissed at.  They're not in a position to find out it's wrong, but you are.

If people don't know anything bout it, they aren't going to react apropriately.  Which is more effective, pissing and moaning about how people are ignorant or working to inform them?

Conlang ok, I'm confused here. Just who are you angry with?

Okay, here's a positive example of interaction.  Yesterday I was waiting in the checkout queue for my shopping to go through when an older lady behind me touched me on the shoulder to get my attention, and said: "arthritis can be a pain, can't it dear?"  She then launched into her experiences and some of the natural remedies she takes to help ease the condition.  This left me nonplussed for a second until I realised that I must have been absent-mindedly stimming by flapping my hands slowly as I waited and she'd mistaken it for a response to arthritis.  So I made what I hoped were "agreeing" noises at appropriate places and thanked her at the end when my turn came at the checkout.  She meant well, so I didn't tell her what I'd really been doing.
Alison

  :grin:

Q: Why did the NT cross the road?

A: Because all the other NTs were doing it.

And then theres the matter of people like me, borderline AS/NT...god knows what we'd have to put up with