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Aeolienne Wrote:

Amadeus_lupin Wrote:
It looks to me like one of those ideas for programmes that has crossed the Atlantic. I've no idea which direction it did that in though.

Westwards.

Reminds me of the American who went to Sweden, saw a branch of Ikea and said: "Oh, you have it over here too!"


Which reminds me of a guy I met in Scotland who insisted to me that Mars bars, Heinz baked beans and Wrigley's gum were British products!

I'm just pointing out that it goes both ways. Big Grin

jewelie Wrote:

Ellen Wrote:


The only main rule I've found about parenting is it's NOT for the lazy or those who have kids a little too late in life and simply don't have the energy anymore.



For an NT who supposedly has empathy, I find this insulting.  YOUR energy level may depend on age, but mine does not.  I'm very glad that I had a chance to live life a bit and grow up before having my first and only baby at age forty.  And if forty doesn't qualify as "a little too late in life" I don't know what does.

This is a RULE, you say?  Well I guess you'd better call social services to come get my darling, as I have seriously broken this rule.

Let's not have a Yetti revival.  Say what works for you.  Don't tell me what works for me.  Walk in my shoes, then we'll talk.


Cheers! I felt the same way about that comment. I had my first at 38 and my second at 40. And when I have grandchildren, I'll be thrilled to babysit any time I'm needed. Children are a joy.

barnburner Wrote:

jewelie Wrote:

Ellen Wrote:


The only main rule I've found about parenting is it's NOT for the lazy or those who have kids a little too late in life and simply don't have the energy anymore.



For an NT who supposedly has empathy, I find this insulting.  YOUR energy level may depend on age, but mine does not.  I'm very glad that I had a chance to live life a bit and grow up before having my first and only baby at age forty.  And if forty doesn't qualify as "a little too late in life" I don't know what does.

This is a RULE, you say?  Well I guess you'd better call social services to come get my darling, as I have seriously broken this rule.

Let's not have a Yetti revival.  Say what works for you.  Don't tell me what works for me.  Walk in my shoes, then we'll talk.


Cheers! I felt the same way about that comment. I had my first at 38 and my second at 40. And when I have grandchildren, I'll be thrilled to babysit any time I'm needed. Children are a joy.


I meant to imply that you can't discipline well or even teach what you need to teach if you can't summon the energy (based on personality, say) required. It doesn't matter how old you are! I myself had Hope at age 38 which is getting a bit long in the tooth fertility-wise.

Could everybody stop being sooooo sensitive and picky about word choice? Re-read the posts if you are uncertain of the true intent. Understand that I sometimes read and write posts while at work on the fly so "walk a mile in my shoes also" ok? This on top of taking care of an aging parent, so excuse me if I don't run everything by the politically correct board of review first. Sad

There are probably 10 billion souls on this planet so we HAVE to develop a thick skin just a little or give the other fellow the benefit of the doubt.

If in spite of the above explanation you are still mad as hell I truly apologize.

barnburner Wrote:

jewelie Wrote:

Ellen Wrote:


The only main rule I've found about parenting is it's NOT for the lazy or those who have kids a little too late in life and simply don't have the energy anymore.



For an NT who supposedly has empathy, I find this insulting.  YOUR energy level may depend on age, but mine does not.  I'm very glad that I had a chance to live life a bit and grow up before having my first and only baby at age forty.  And if forty doesn't qualify as "a little too late in life" I don't know what does.

This is a RULE, you say?  Well I guess you'd better call social services to come get my darling, as I have seriously broken this rule.

Let's not have a Yetti revival.  Say what works for you.  Don't tell me what works for me.  Walk in my shoes, then we'll talk.


Cheers! I felt the same way about that comment. I had my first at 38 and my second at 40. And when I have grandchildren, I'll be thrilled to babysit any time I'm needed. Children are a joy.

As an energetic older parent I totally agree.
First at age 27
2nd at age 29
3rd at age 40
And would have another if I was able.

Ellen Wrote:
I meant to imply that you can't discipline well or even teach what you need to teach if you can't summon the energy (based on personality, say) required. It doesn't matter how old you are! I myself had Hope at age 38 which is getting a bit long in the tooth fertility-wise.

Could everybody stop being sooooo sensitive and picky about word choice? Re-read the posts if you are uncertain of the true intent. Understand that I sometimes read and write posts while at work on the fly so "walk a mile in my shoes also" ok? This on top of taking care of an aging parent, so excuse me if I don't run everything by the politically correct board of review first. Sad

There are probably 10 billion souls on this planet so we HAVE to develop a thick skin just a little or give the other fellow the benefit of the doubt.

If in spite of the above explanation you are still mad as hell I truly apologize.


You may have "meant to imply" something else, but you clearly stated:

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The only main rule I've found about parenting is it's NOT for the lazy or those who have kids a little too late in life and simply don't have the energy anymore.


All we can do is read your words. Your words say that parenting is not for those who have kids "a little too late." You did not say "those who have kids too late in life OR simply don't have the energy," you said AND. What makes you think that young people are so full of energy with their kids? Often times it is the older parents who are able to do the most with their kids. If I'd had kids in my early 20s, I certainly wouldn't have been able to stay home with them, wouldn't have had the money to take them to Disneyworld, etc. Plenty of young parents are totally lazy, so even that sort of thing can't just be attributed to older parents.

You seem to be blaming us (we're too sensitive, our skin isn't thick enough, we're not working as hard as you are, we're too politically correct) rather than justifying (or apologizing for) your comment. I'm still not sure what the intent of the comment was, because you didn't explain. You think you were "long in the tooth" when you had your daughter, so maybe it's a personal issue with you. There's no way we could be expected to understand that. I think you know that the vast majority of people on these boards are not "mindreaders." Wink

Ellen Wrote:
Could everybody stop being sooooo sensitive and picky about word choice? Re-read the posts if you are uncertain of the true intent. Understand that I sometimes read and write posts while at work on the fly so "walk a mile in my shoes also" ok? This on top of taking care of an aging parent, so excuse me if I don't run everything by the politically correct board of review first. Sad

There are probably 10 billion souls on this planet so we HAVE to develop a thick skin just a little or give the other fellow the benefit of the doubt.

If in spite of the above explanation you are still mad as hell I truly apologize.



Being sensitive and picky about words is how I try to understand what is going on. Re-reading will only make me more sensitive and more picky.

You want me to grow a thick skin.

Maybe it is you who is oversensitive here. Lots of us get remarks that things are not clear enough. So what. We try to communicate. And saying things as clear as possible is what makes communication easier.
So don't feel offended. Just explain what you mean. And if you write on impulse, miscommunication can happen. And you might have to explain it again later.

If you want to avoid it you could write your impulses as drafts. Re-read them in a more quiet time and then post them.

hyke Wrote:

Ellen Wrote:
Could everybody stop being sooooo sensitive and picky about word choice? Re-read the posts if you are uncertain of the true intent. Understand that I sometimes read and write posts while at work on the fly so "walk a mile in my shoes also" ok? This on top of taking care of an aging parent, so excuse me if I don't run everything by the politically correct board of review first. Sad

There are probably 10 billion souls on this planet so we HAVE to develop a thick skin just a little or give the other fellow the benefit of the doubt.

If in spite of the above explanation you are still mad as hell I truly apologize.



Being sensitive and picky about words is how I try to understand what is going on. Re-reading will only make me more sensitive and more picky.

You want me to grow a thick skin.

Maybe it is you who is oversensitive here. Lots of us get remarks that things are not clear enough. So what. We try to communicate. And saying things as clear as possible is what makes communication easier.
So don't feel offended. Just explain what you mean. And if you write on impulse, miscommunication can happen. And you might have to explain it again later.

If you want to avoid it you could write your impulses as drafts. Re-read them in a more quiet time and then post them.

Good idea, we all probably write things without thinking things through properly.

I would like to add re the 'older mother thing', most of these mothers choose to have children later in life for various reasons & I would have thought that they  would on the whole be prepared for the ups & downs of parenting
There will be the occasional unplanned birth, but these days  there is choice regarding whether to proceed with the pregnancy.
We are not living in the days when women had children until they dropped  of exhaustion.

Momoftwo2005 Wrote:
i keep saying i am gonna have to call supernanny cause when you try different approaches and the child doesnt respond to disipline what do you do? My child already treats me like i'm his slave 24/7 i have tried different ways to approach it though he responds to nothing i know he's young but therapists are even telling me now i am gonna have a monster if i don't put my foot down. what am i suppose to do though i do the best i can.


Have you tried rewarding and praising behavior that you do want?
We had success using "consequences" but I try to save that for dangerous behaviors and avoid getting into battles over minor things ("pick your battles wisely").

Tigger_the_Wing Wrote:
Oh, and the episode is on:

http://www.blinkx.com/videos/Supernanny


Just watched it - I was pleasantly surprised by the episode. The only thing I've never been a fan of is the way she treats the parents (the "why aren't you happy?" question especially rankled), but the actual advice she gave was pretty good.

It's not often you see an autistic kid shown realistically, either - usually shows only edit in "tantrum" and "sitting in the corner" footage...

tenaciouscj Wrote:
Oh, the kind of people reported to social services are usually the "soft targets" who can't defend themselves very well. The more affluent and well-dressed parents can get away with more ill-treatment of their children. I also fail to see why the kids are forced to speak because as long as they can make their needs known, that should be enough.


I agree completely, over here junkies,alcoholics etc, get to keep their children  ( possibly because both police & SS are afraid of the no go areas) , The wealthy get away with anything they want.
The timid everyday ordinary  person is the target in most instances.



I would like to watch the video, but for some reason, I can't get past ' preview click here to view the whole thing ' It doesn't matter where I click, I keep being returned to preview.
Any one know what I'm doing wrong?

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I just use the computer, I really don't have a clue about the workings, I'll get my son to look when he returns.
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