I've only seen some of her show. However, from what little I've seen it seems she's one of those who teach parents, how to borderline abuse their children in order to make them behave. I'm sure this article should be interesting. :roll:
I've only seen some of her show. However, from what little I've seen it seems she's one of those who teach parents, how to borderline abuse their children in order to make them behave. I'm sure this article should be interesting. :roll:
we must be watching different shows, I personally like alot of what the nannys do, you are right on one point and it really is sad that she HAS to TEACH parents how to raise their kids. If you have watched any of those shows you would see that these parents have never had any sort of control over their kids, they bow to them and teach them absolutly nothing about how to behave. I guess I can just consider myself lucky because if any of my 3 children EVER acted the way I have seen many of the children on that show act I would be in jail for child abuse because I could not imagine one of my children"talking back, hitting , spitting, hurting each other and worse. Parents everywhere aren't doing thier children any favors by raising them to believe the world revolves around them and that they will have the world at thier feet, because when they grow up and learn that the REAL world has rules , they just can't cope.
Juliashaye
I might have it confused with another show. It seems all you see on the ads though, is kids crying or something. I mean in general, not just Nanny 911 specifically. I'm probaly thinking more like Honey, We're Killing the Kids which is more about forcing kids to loose weight. However, I do think I have a grudge against most of those shows, because generally their answer to misbehaviour is take away the kids video games. As a gamer of course that makes me upset. :angry:
i myself am not a gamer but it seems to be my husbands favorite way of punishment, he would like to completely ban tv and video games from the house. :evil:
I found an article on how tv and video games can be good for aspies and
he said i am just trying to coddle my daughter and find a way to make those "games" okay. :grin:
Kids need to be kids, he is ex-military and we have totally different views on child rearing. :roll:
He says the dumbest things sometimes as reasons for this rule or that rule: like if somerhing happens to us I want to know the kids can take care of themselves; :shock: :? I don't they are 10 & 12, geez how grown up do you want them to be, I want them to be like 10 & 12 year olds SHOULD be not how the majority are now, little 25 year olds, Right????
I have seen that "honey we are killing the kids" Gosh do you see the things they are throwing away? These kids should be on permanent sugar rushes!! I couldn't imagine my kids having that sort of attatchment to food at such a young age;to where they would act as though it were the end of the world to watch a box of Capt. Crunch go in the trash, It too is really sad, it is like having an overweight dog you are killing them with kindness(or stupidity, laziness, ect.)
My husband and I try to compromise but most of the time, we agree to disagree!! He seems to forget I have already raised one child to adulthood with out screwing him up so I think I kind of have a handle on what i am doing even though every child is different, I believe we will all be okay, thanks for the feed back, i have to have someone who understands to vent to at times! !! :lol:
Overall, I think Supernanny offers pretty solid parenting advice. Not that I agree with her on everything of course ... One thing that really jumped out at me over the episodes I watched was how many moms were trying to work from home AND care for their toddlers at the same time. We've all been led into this giant myth that working at home solves all your childcare needs - NO, it does not, and Jo wisely pointed that out to these moms, and helped them find some reasonable compromises (like scheduling work in short, set increments followed by play time so the kids know that time with mommy really is coming soon). Lol, this issue is one I know, because I had bought into it when my first child was born. Didn't last long ... but I was fortunate, I was able to hire a ... nanny!
Overall, she recommends structure (a reasonable one that reflects the kids needs, too) and simple, clear rules consistently followed. The rest is icing ... it's these two fundamental building blocks most families are missing, and that she works hard to put in place.
Not that I've seen all the episodes ... just a few.
As for children crying in the ads ... yep, they do. Out of frustration, and usually before Nanny puts things right. Certainly they will rebel against the new rules for a while, and cry with frustration against them - in the past screaming and crying has been the behavior that has gotten them what they've wanted more often than not. But, they figure it out pretty quick, and then actually are much happier. Kids want to know what to expect. It's that simple.
ANYWAY, I'll have to see if I can find that article. It would be interesting to hear what she says ...
Juliashaye, maybe your husband should talk with a psychologist about the impact of his discipline on his Aspie daughter. Taking away an Aspie child's video game, is the same as taking phone privelages away from a NT-social child. I understand that he's ex-military, which is why I think that some form of psychological help is in order.
I imagine all the daughter is seeing is her militant father rejecting her, and who she is. You can't raise your children, like you train soldiers for battle. I fear that if he continues going down this road, your daughter will probaly end up feeling dispair and perhaps depression.
I don't know your daughter, but for me as an Aspie, I have huge issues with feeling that I am out of control of a situation. If your daughter feels the same way, the only way this will end up is your daughter feeling she's "trapped" in her own home. That won't benifit anyone.
I mean especially if your daughter were to act out and do something drastic to gain control. It's situations like the one you have here, that leads to eating disorders. I cannot control my life, but I can control what I eat or don't eat. It's not about image, although in some cases it might be. Most of the time it starts as a control issue. I mean, surely your daughter knows neither you or your husband can force-feed her.
I don't mean to scare you, I'm just saying from my perspective as an Aspie. I'd see this as a never-ending nightmare, and probaly would resort back to my own reaction to needing control. Cutting.
i keep saying i am gonna have to call supernanny cause when you try different approaches and the child doesnt respond to disipline what do you do? My child already treats me like i'm his slave 24/7 i have tried different ways to approach it though he responds to nothing i know he's young but therapists are even telling me now i am gonna have a monster if i don't put my foot down. what am i suppose to do though i do the best i can.
Remember the key: consistency, consistency, consisteny.
Don't be quick to give up on a new technique. It could take a while.
Just be careful selecting your techniques in the first place, making sure they sit right with you as appropriate for your child and your family. There is no "one size fits all" here.
I wonder if SuperNanny even went to college or if she just took a few parenting classes. What works for non-disordered kids doesn't work for kids who actually have psychiatric and neurological differences. IMO I dont' think kids hit their parents, even if not disciplined well, unless something bad is going on inside of them, and the kids need to be seriously evaluated. I'm not talking about talk therapy, which I think is as useless as SuperNanny. They need to be evaluated to see why they lack the normal control that most kids intristically display. JMHO, as always.
I think Supernanny just has a lot of years of experience as a nanny. Perhaps an earlychildhood education degree.
From the shows I've watched, the kids are perfectly normal. Perfectly normal kids can, most definitely, behave that way when their needs are not being met. I think every show I saw included a mother trying to work at home while also taking sole responsiblity for toddlers. There is NOTHING worse for a child than having mommy home but not available. Supernanny actually had some excellent ideas on how to structure it so work could be done (usually on a cut back schedule) and the children tended to.
Another issue she was dealing with consisently was poor sleep hygiene. That is another one that can wreak havoc with little ones, and the moms. I didn't agree with her on everything she would do there, but her end point that you have to set priorities, set clear guidelines, and stick to them is solid.
How she is with children on the spectrum, I don't know. But, the nanny we had when my son was 4 was wonderful for him. She gave him structure, love, and chose a very calm routine that he did really well with. We didn't know he was ASD then, but her instincts led her in the right direction. I was too tired and frazzled with my newborn to give him what he needed, and she was a Godsend in bringing balance back into our lives. So, for an outsider with little training to actually tune in properly to an ASD child isn't impossible. A good nanny learns quickly to understand children as individuals, and that is rule No 1 for ASD kids, isn't it?
Why, thank you, Aeolienne!
(Tigger purrs happily)
I was feeling quite low this morning as I contemplated yet another day in bed (my heart conditions are playing up again

) and your kind words have quite cheered me up!

I thought it cruel.
They ignored the poor lad for over three years and then think that they can put it right in a couple of days by bullying him.
My kids learnt to talk because I TALKED TO THEM!!!!!! Not because I refused to change their nappies/feed them/play with them until they spoke first!

Other mums used to tell me I was odd for talking in real language and reading to my newborns but it paid off in dividends. And had the major benefit of making ME feel better, too!
Actually, the Facentes were equally cruel to all three kids, depriving them
all of care and attention. Why does this psychological neglect not get them referred to social services?
Sorry, no idea. We've only just got broadband so I've never tried video before. It just seems to work.
Despite being married to an IT professional I am only marginally less than clueless.
Funnily enough, as DH works on mainframes, I am far better than he is! Even his colleagues said that I did well to set up the broadband by myself in less than a day as it took them more than a week to get it working!
One thing I don't like about Supernanny is that there is a lot of focus on family interaction. If this is what all family members want, that's fine, but there seems to be no acknowledgement of or provision for the fact that some people would rather have 'alone time' or who need to retreat into their own world sometimes to stay sane.
I thought it cruel.
They ignored the poor lad for over three years and then think that they can put it right in a couple of days by bullying him.
My kids learnt to talk because I TALKED TO THEM!!!!!! Not because I refused to change their nappies/feed them/play with them until they spoke first!

Other mums used to tell me I was odd for talking in real language and reading to my newborns but it paid off in dividends. And had the major benefit of making ME feel better, too!
Actually, the Facentes were equally cruel to all three kids, depriving them
all of care and attention. Why does this psychological neglect not get them referred to social services?
And that's why I said I dislike these shows. It's just using the children to get some airtime on TV. It's abusing children for ratings.