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I'm an artist
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HAHAHAHA!! I say that, and I'd like to believe it! But alas, I'm not particularly talented, oh well, I'd still like some opinions please.
<.< >.> PRAISE MEEE!!!! *cough cough* uh, yeah...

http://anyana.deviantart.com/

Well, after your eyes have recovered, comments and crits are welcomed!
awwww some meanie said yes Sad

(I'm gonna assume they ticked the wrong box Smile )

EDIT:So ummm...don't stop Smile
An artist doesn't ask if they should stop or not.  It is not an option.

It doesn't matter about talent.  It takes work.  Van Gogh's early drawings were terrible, he didn't know where to put the hands and feet, he didn't understand perspective, he couldn't draw.  He worked and got better at it.

Picasso was capable of creating near perfect drawings, he chose abstract.  Choice is what makes an artist.

Are you prepared to work?  Are you prepared to learn the basics, rules on colour, on form, on perspective, on layout etc etc.  If not you will never be an artist although you might one day be successful, on the other hand if you do do your time and learn all the rules you can then break them all with impunity, at that is art.
Art comes from in your heart people keep telling me about how I shouldn't do x,y,z or the other but I do what I want to do.

I think your art is pretty good, hopefully I can share mine when I come back from holiday next week...
I love that idea,
art is about expressing yourself, and I express myself so I am an artist.

CRAP

If you want to express yourself get drunk down your local pub.  Art is about sharing visions, it is about recreating heaven and earth, it is about eternity.

So if all you want to do is say, I paint crap but I express myself so I am an artist, then keep out of any gallery or theatre that I frequent.
art is an expression
a crap artist is still an artist
A surgeon who doesn't know anatomy is not a surgeon, just a butcher

A sailor who can't navegate is a shipwreck

A politician who can't lie is just a philosopher

An artist who doesn't understand form and colour, word and structure, anatomy, truth, navegation, lies, love, hate, oneself, noself, and all the other little atoms, is NOT AN ARTIST.  As an artist they may be good or bad,  I have nothing against bad artists, as long as they are aware of how good or bad they are, as long as they know what they want to achieve and what they have achieved.
I think art is in the creating, not the talent that may exist. If anyone appreciates it, even if its only the artist themself, then it is worthy of existing.

(btw welcome to the board bunyip  :wink: )
Thanks Amy, probably just passing through, but  nice to be here.  

In Madrid I knew a lot of ex-pats some of whom wrote and some didn't.  They got together and began a magazine, In-Madrid, it is a free magazine so they dump them on bars and tourist offices and English academies.  This means that they have an elevated circulation although most of their circulation ends up in the dumpster, this means they can charge more for advertising.  The problem with this magazine is that they edit themselves.  Nobody to say, No, rewrite this, leave this out etc.  No problem if they were any good but the writing is excruciatingly bad.  

If I were a millionare and paid to have a record produced and promoted it with my own money, would that make me a singer.  I sing quite nicely in the shower but somehow outside the shower there is a rather different tone to my voice.  Still, as I appreciate my voice I must be a singer.

The one thing which destroys creativity is complacency.  If you think you are the best at something you probably aren't.  It is in the striving to improve that art is created, in the sweat, not in the champagne.  

I repeat, that I do not deny that there are good and bad artists, being very talented is nothing without effort, effort is nothing without talent.  But someone who is satisfied with their own production, who feels they have nothing to learn. who does not reach for the stars, is not an artist but an accountant.
I'm no accountant!! *is firrrred up* uh, yeah....


Well, by your definitions Bunyip I don't if I'm an artist or not, *got confused along the way* but I like to draw, though not all that I draw. Anyway, all lovely philosophical babbling aside, could anyone give me some constructive crits? Because, aside from confusing myself, I don't seem to have gained much from sharin' with y'all (except from the nice comments by Shadow and Brightman thank you *hugs*) and I really would like someone to suggest what I could do to improve.

>.> <.< Help meeeee!!!! You know you want to...
Sorry.  You are right.  I have been ranting about definitions on your thread and distracting all from your question.  

Please note that I did not vote for nor against your continuing as my feeling is that noone should nor can decide for you.

You´re art is good in concept and shows the beginning of style.  You have a problem with dimensionality.  One way to work on this is shadow.  Try to get some object (a bone is good, due to it's irregular nature and because it is quite an unfamiliar object which will help to disable your left side symbolising) and put it under a strong light.  

Then draw this object making sure that you draw the shadows,  in fact draw only the shadows.  Do not make one drawing, draw the same object under the same light a number of times.  Each time you will be drawing something different and hopefully going a little deeper into yourself.  Take a photo, if you like and compare it to your drawings.  The goal here is not to paint reality, but learn how reality looks so that you can make what you dream real.

Your drawings are not from life I think.  Try drawing from photos.  The real trick is to learn to see.  Many hopeful artists sit to do a drawing and they will move their heads over to see their subject better.  THis widens the image.  If you can only see one ear, only draw one ear.  Again this is an exercise, Picasso could draw fifteen ears if he felt like it but he was capable of drawing only what was there before he began to draw what wasn't.

Go to the zoo and draw quick motion sketches of animals, or if they are not in motion then quick still sketches.  Do not try to capture a photo, just try to capture the idea.  Lines that show their movement, their essence.

Try to draw somebody in five seconds.  again all you want is the idea of that person.  As time goes by if you stick with it you will find that you can make swift sketches which people may recognise.

All of these are exercises there are many more.  ALl will help you to produce the images that you see in your head.  But only if you practice daily, if you criticise yourself without punishing yourself, and if you don't listen to people who out of pure spite and jealousy laugh at your ideas.

In high school I had a careers teacher who asked what I wanted to do, I said I wanted to write, she was surprised and asked what I wanted to write, I said that I didn't know, that I read a great deal, but at that stage I was reading mostly fantasy novels, and that my tastes would change as I got older. She laughed in my face and said, I suppose you want to write like Tolkien, I replied, no, I want to write like me.  I didn't listen to her anymore, I knew what I wanted to do.  SHe became quite uncomfortable as I sat politely attentive but totally incomunicative.  At the end of that year she left her job, Why?  She went to write a book.  

THe story means, don't catch someone elses negative attitude, make your positive attitude contagious.
Oh, and look for the dream state.

Many artists report or have been observed to go into a kind of trance like state as they work.  No artist myself I have on a few occassions entered this state myself and produced quite decent work.  

I don't know exactly how to induce this state.  Try to find a place to work where you are not disturbed, where you feel safe and comfortable.  Block out unpleasant sensation, make sure you have plenty of time.  Don't think too much about what you are doing.  Try to concentrate on each shadow, each pencil stroke, try to think visually, breathe comfortably, don't criticise yourself, by all means feel free to erase or turn the paper over and begin again but don't get emotional about failures, there are none.

The state, when you are in it, is one of timelessness.  You feel cocooned, your hands and eyes make the decisions, it feels that they are connected directly while your conciousness just sits back and watches.  Meditation might help you achieve this state, as might yoga, but it differs from person to person, some artists slip into this state as soon as they pick up their brush.

It might take you years, so what, why do you think we live for years?  Not to get a job and make the country great.  It is to give us time just to begin to appreciate the marvelous intricacies of the world and of ourselves.

"Contradict myself?  Of course I contradict myself!  I am immense - There are worlds within me!"  Walt Whitman
Thankyou Bunyip, that sounds like very good advice, which I will endeavour (sp?) to incorporate into my drawing time...  or whatever you want to call my mindless doodlings.

I don't think I've ever entered the trance thing, but you never know, I probably just haven't been concentrating or something (I do tend to get distracte... ooh shin... Starsky and..) huh? oh yeah, anyway, thankyou for the lovely advice. I'm sure it'll come in useful.

(and feel free to vote, I wasn't going to stop, I just wanted to make a poll, and that came to mind...)
by the way, are you making a Kiki reference?  Are you a sluggy free-lance fan?
Kiki as in Kiki's Delivery Service? No.

Otherwise I know of no Kiki's or sluggy free-lance....

And I'd just looked at the results for the poll, and two of you want me to stop, and although everyone has a right to their own opinion, you can have the mighty *** you. Immature? Perhaps, but it gets my sentiments across.
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