Aspies For Freedom

Yikes.  The topic titles alone are dripping with bile.  These are some angry, miserable men.  Gee, I'd love more than anything else in the WORLD to spend an hour or two on their bitter, nasty, foul-mouthed site!  But what do I know, I'm an American female!  :mad:

Sure, they've had bad experiences, but do they even consider the POSSIBLITY that they may have a share of blame?!  Apparently not.  Well, good luck to them and God bless their new girlfriends from overseas!  Though the men might want to take a few minutes/months/years to unclench their teeth & lose the rage before they scare the new women away!  Thank God I never "got" a boyfriend...I feel as if I've dodged a bullet! :grin:

An "AS partners" for NT/NT couples?

Thank you FUBAR!

Just for the men.  Bitter, angry, cynical men.  Even with two "normal" people in the relationship, things can go horribly wrong, it seems. :?

Marriage is pointless, and I definitely would not want to have any children. As for their arguments, quite a few seem to be baseless generalizations, but there is truth to some of it, judging from what I have seen. (I have no personal experience with relationships, nor plan to get any)

Generally, most people, whenever they end up in a relationship, delude themselves into thinking they have found "the one". They then engage in various kinds of manipulation combined with a many forms of self-deception, and develop an unhealthy need of eachother. Then, sooner or later, the relationship blows up in their face; the longer it takes, the harder it happens. The unfulfillable need they have developed then gets the best of them. ("love" is an inbuilt drug-like mechanism of the brain. and like many drugs, it comes with nasty withdrawal effects) Often, one or both then try their best to ruin the other's life, and sometimes succeed very well. Then, as soon as it is all over, what do they do? They get into another relationship and repeat it all. Again, and again... Morons.

Yes, and the men at this site blame cultural conditioning for their previous failures.  "It's all because American women are spoiled @#$%&es!"  Maybe it's HUMAN NATURE, guys!  Good luck anyway... :roll:

"Don't complain if he is late for dinner or even if he stays out all night."

:?:  :!:  :shock:  :?:  :!:

Why would a properly catered-to husband even WANT to stay out all night? :?

FUBAR, something tells me that if you ever find the metal-obsessed woman of your earlier-posted dreams, she will be rather too fierce to comply with this site's ideal for wifedom.  But maybe she will stay out all night WITH you! :grin:

You state that you have no personal experience with relationships and that marriage is pointless - how do you know?

Judging on all the information I have at this point, it seems pretty certain that it is so. (I remain open to the possibility that I might one day be proven wrong, however. feel free to tell me if I have overlooked something) Marriage is a ceremony and a legal contract; should I get into a meaningful relationship sometime in the future, why would I need that ceremony? I could replace it with something of my own should I feel like having one, something that is not neccessary, altought I see how it could be desired. And I definitely wouldn't want the legal part of it. It would be stupid to assume that the relationship would last, and it would needlessly complicate matters should it blow up in my face. And should it last, it still would not be of any significant benefit.

There are no longer any huge societal pressures on men to get married, therefore men have more choice than ever before about whether or not they do marry.

Bitterness seems pointless, though having said that, I do understand that bitterness could result from a failed marriage attempt.

From my point of view, I was aware of the potential pitfalls of marriage from around the age of 17 or thereabouts and therefore resolved never to get caught up in it. I have not been in the position of even having a girlfriend, so it seems a moot point anyway.

In many ways, marriage as an institution seems somewhat redundant. The changing roles of men and women in Western societies means that marriage has to be re-cast in order to reflect those changes and this is why we see belated attempts to alter marriage law and resolution of post-marriage disputes.

Certainly, being branded a 'loser' because womankind uniformly and conspicuously failed to find me appealing no longer stings like it used to. This is one of the advantages of getting older, I suppose.

My mum once told me "don't look for Mr Right.  Look out instead for Mr Trainable." :smile:
Alison

I would only marry one who I could consider my equal, I nearly did, but she got sent away before she was 16/18 (I VERY much doubt I would have got consent from parents)

And if I did marry, it would, by default, have to be an aspie/autie, as I won't date NTs.

He has a point about the foreign women.
According to Steven Shore, AS people do better with people of other cultures both in business and relationships.  They chalk off any oddities to be foreign.  Married a Chinese women himself.

Most of my peer females are either complete ditzes, obsessive overachievers, very much social and political activists, or way too much better than me in almost all ways for me to feel comfortable around.

On the other hand girls who came to the US from China as teenagers (a lot of them in my school) tend to be very nice, and generally smart and/or talented.

I swear one of them was attracted to me.  She followed me around when she got the chance, smiled at me whenever I spoke to her, told me about China eagerly, and laughed at jokes that I made that nobody laughed at, and seemed sincere in it.  Certainly made me attracted to her at any rate.

Especially when you have the immigrants, they tend to be smarter than normal, to make it here, and more enterprising, to leave in the first place.

Also, the classic American "hot" girls and whatnot strike me as truly hideous looking freaks.  Can't see how anybody finds the tiny noses, bulging lips, peroxide hair, distorted figures, and excessive makeup attractive.
And most girls my age try to look "hot."  Often even brown-skinned girls will bleach their hair.

Latina, Chinese, and south and Central Asian women on the other hand are really attractive to me (And mideastern, but I don't think I'd want to marry a devout Muslim, which all of the Mid-eastern girls I've met are).  
As I mentioned elsewhere, it was seeing all the indigenas and metizas of around my age in Oaxaca that convinced me there was no way I could be asexual.

Likewise.
Which is why I say I'll probably never marry.
My standards are too high.

And I probably set them too high for myself as well, wouldn't marry in what I consider too far "up"

That's rather young to marry.  Isn't it?

There are some perfectly nice NT girls.  
The really eccentric ones and the ones into drama and art anywhen.

Which would further support looking into a hypothesis that I have. . .

Damn, but I really want to learn more about neurology.