http://www.no marriage.com (read the "Read this first" section first :grin
Warning this site contains material unsuitable for minors.
Interesting points. What do you think? Bitter single men complaining about women? A bunch of chauvinists complaining about how women should not have rights? Are kids overrated? Are people miserable in a marriage? Do modern women ask/expect too much?
No reason to get offended. You don't have chains on anyone. You're ok. :grin:
EDIT: Oh and remember, these are real life experiences from married men who regret it. Thus the offensive outlook.
This is particularly amusing:
Discussion from pregnancy message board:
It took me 2 years to get pg, we finally said screw it, stopped trying, and went to Mexico. Whammo, a vacation and margi's did the trick.
Your son looks kind-of Mexican, right?
shhhh- don't tell my husband
I never thought I could be happy for someone but you just made an exception to the rule.
Can go wrong? More like WILL go wrong...
Good posts, couldbecousin.
The manipulative and dominating behavior that the authors describe in women is the same thing as their own angry contempt for fat women, insufficiently beautiful women--or the insufficiently cheerful. It's all materialism.
And I wonder how these men felt when they realized that, among, eg, the Chinese and Mexicans, it's customary for the wife to manage the money (and everything else that has anything to do with the household), expecting obedience from the husband?
I might be too young or biased to comment on this but:
If
I work 60 hours a week to bring a paycheck of 5000 euros each month
If
I support the
whole family with this sum
If
I educate myself for 12 years to get this job
If
I consider and finance everyone's needs in the family
If
I constantly make sacrifices for the well being of my family
Am I not deserving this:
http://www.nomarriage.com/goodwife.jpg
?
It might look ridiculous, and doesn't have to go to extreme like that. But it would still be nice if my efforts are sufficiently appreciated. Should I get even half of that I'd be happy forever and always and ever and always and so on.
And I wonder how these men felt when they realized that, among, eg, the Chinese and Mexicans, it's customary for the wife to manage the money (and everything else that has anything to do with the household) expecting obedience from the husband?
Who knew?! Our poor mistreated men may have their worst nightmares still ahead of them! :razz:
Seriously, they may be their OWN worst nightmares. Living with that much anger must get exhausting.
Well yeah I was kind of role-playing an NT husband there.
http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/whyidate2.shtml
The woman described in that article sounds actually awesome. Also a bit of aspie as well:
no mindgames!
A Heartless *** will never say, "If you really loved me, you'd know why I was upset." Instead, she'll say, "I'm upset because you pissed me off!"
:kiss:
EDIT:
Living with that much anger must get exhausting.
On the contrary: Anger equals energy.
FUBAR, something tells me that if you ever find the metal-obsessed woman of your earlier-posted dreams, she will be rather too fierce to comply with this site's ideal for wifedom. But maybe she will stay out all night WITH you! :grin:
Wifedom... Well, I don't have to get married, do I? :grin:
Also it might be one-sided - maybe such women think I'm not fierce enough for them a) because I'm well-educated, which obviously means a book-worm type of geek b) I deliberately reinforce this thought since I didn't pillage and wreak havoc (read: live life) in my teen years c) too smart to be a rock 'n' roll legend type of young semi-criminal who lives every day like it's his last (like she does?) There aren't many in-betweens in this category of women.
It's a gut-wrenching paradox that can't happen. At best I can appear as an artistic type of man, kind of bohemian misunderstood lunatic. My past just doesn't comply with this. I haven't been myself long enough.
"I haven't been myself long enough"---interesting. Do you mean you simply haven't lived long enough, or do you instead mean that you haven't accepted your true nature long enough?
Lack of confidence to show my true self earlier. If you're bullied already, you don't go seeking for more reasons to get bullied, do you? :grin: I can't get over the fact that they denied me of having "normal" teen years, like my NT brother. But this thread isn't about me or my problems. I somehow managed to escalate it into this.
That's OK FUBAR, you're still on topic. Like the men on that angry site, you are searching for happiness. Unlike them, you seem to understand that accomodation must happen on BOTH sides. If the extreme metal women of your acquaintance seem not to appreciate you, perhaps it's time to consider different types of women! (You really wouldn't be happy being dragged along on a crime spree, would you? :wink
Certainly, being branded a 'loser' because womankind uniformly and conspicuously failed to find me appealing no longer stings like it used to. This is one of the advantages of getting older, I suppose.
Exactly! At 40 I understand that ANYONE can find a partner (a wised-up older friend tells me, "There's someone out there for everyone, IF you lower your standards enough!"), so I no longer see "hooking up" for hooking up's sake as an accomplishment. There are many things I will never do, or WANT to do. Pairing up is probably one of them. Whatever I do end up doing socially, it will be for MY benefit, and not to prove anything to anyone else. 
"hooking up" for hooking up's sake as an accomplishment.
How to completely abolish this thought? I don't care if my friends say that they don't care if I find someone, because they do and will care. They care so much they will puke their intestines out of envy, regurgitate and repeat. No matter how cool they appear. I have known them for so many years. Now, I would genuinely NOT care, because it would be exactly as it is described on the site in question. In fact they may think I'm the last one to "hook up" in this bunch, but I know it's completely contrary to that. :grin:
No matter what, it is still an accomplishment on some level. To prove that you're good enough for at least someone, nevermind the standards. If I'm told that my standards are low, I can always pull the "looks don't matter" ace from under my sleeve.
Oh and:
First screen: Most of men's friends are dating. The man is happy for their friends. The the man finds out that the uttermost dumbass he knows is dating with a smart and attractive female.
Second screen: The basis of his life is gone. All knowledge of life and justice in universe are torn apart.
Third screen: The man understands that the absence of justice significantly reduces his chances. He can only refresh by drinking a lot of beer and making an *** of himself, thus further reducing his chances.
He has a point about the foreign women.
According to Steven Shore, AS people do better with people of other cultures both in business and relationships. They chalk off any oddities to be foreign. Married a Chinese women himself.
Some cultures tolerate--or even encourage--AS-type behavior. For example, many Native American ethnicities consider eye contact, loudness, and public displays of emotion quite rude.