This can only lead to badness. It is badness, but can only lead to more anf worse badness.
I'd develop a coherent arguement, but the badness of this is so obvious that I don't deem it necessary. Not half as nesascary as learning to spell nessasery.
Having had two babies myself, I wouldn't underestimate the grind of the machine at work here. At the end of the day testing costs money and takes time and organisation, the kind of things that take years to develop and bring into play. And in my honest opinion, the kinds of people who would screen their embryos for signs of Autism/Aspergers are the kinds of people who should not be parents to an Autistic child anyway. If people want to act like the shallow NT's that they are, let them.
I personally think that attempting to cure people of Aspergers is the very last thing humanity needs right now, we don't need anymore poptarts or soccer stars or kids who sit still, we need more people like Carl Sagan, Stephen Hawking and Temple Grandin, if this planet is to survive. The last time I checked these people were all brilliant and not just a little Aspie.
"I am an optimist."
"I am a realist."
Any "optimism" that requires an abandonment of reality is not being optimistic, but delusional.
There are many, MANY people who would 'select" a baby with blue eyes -- by dumping the ones with brown eyes.
You know many people are currently aborting female babies in countries where couples are limited to one or two babies.
You think people wouldn't de-select babies who were going to be Autistic, or gay, or sub-cute or any other quality the parents didn't want?
Many people have babies as a life-style accessory. They'd have them in colors to match their cars if it were possible.
Abort! Excuse me...
Just a quick question... Does anyone know if it is possible to check the presents of these so-called genes in the remains of those such as Einstein, Beethoven, Picasso?
Scares me to think that we would come to aborting such genius.
um likely.you would have to have hair or a piece of biological materal. i supose you could run it on a decendant, if you could find one. but that would be shaky becuase you get half your dna from your mother half from your father.how can you tell whats what.
Just wondering how people would feel about say sperm sorting techniques being used instead of PGD so a couple with family history of severe autism could have a girl?
Well, this really SUCKS!!
I can't think of anything more intelligent to say at the moment.
The Nazis said save deutschmarks by encouraging the mentally ill to choose suicide.
Jesus said care for your neighbor's needs and don't ask any questions about why they cannot work, if they can't or they aren't wanted to work.
I guess by caring for people with disabilities that restrictive we gain something ourselves. Maybe we appreciate better what makes us human. Last Sunday a speaker gave a sermon on Rahab longing for Yahweh as an alternative to a life of prostitution. The more Rahab tried to get the attention of the two Hebrews, the less attention they paid to her (adherents to Yahweh would despise a prostitute if they didn't get close enough to her to know she wanted to leave it for Yahweh).
After the service we talked. Her Down's syndrome ministry and a separate autism or Asperger ministry did help folk appreciate what humans with disabilities still had as humans, with the distracting things like intelligence, prejudice, and what not removed. I told her I am Asperger. She advised me to tell my story, to assauge the fears of parents that Asperger would rule out a career and independent living.
Even if it does seem to delay a relationship now, as the career was delayed ten years earlier. I actually never knew what Mom thought about the lack of the love lives of my brother and I, or by extension the non-existence of grandchildren in the lifetime of my parents.
She only said, in response to my question, she would have chosen from my friends one current Shepherd University staff member from my graduating class. And boy, the similiarities between my mother and my classmate are striking!
Same first name with differences in spelling
Same undergraduate major and high undergraduate honors, Mom tried grad school and the other one finished
Same politics and pro-choice abortion view
Simlar concern to improve women's and civil rights, and improve society in general
Same hesitation with Christianity
Similar small town or rural childhood
It makes me think of a Superfriends episode in which Dr. Jekyll is able to make a monster based on the super powers of Batman, Wonder Woman and Superman, and Robin with what's left of their same powers defeats the monster (using an intelligent strategy with a lead-lined suit and some kryptonite).
If I had to create a personality composite of my best guess for a good female partner, I'd want her on the lightning rack too, but I'd also want the compassionate Christian who unsuccessfully tried to help me find Jesus with a little carpet love bombing. Aside from the tactical mistake, I'd feel well at ease with a Christian who wants to love, take care of, and defend everyone, no questions asked, including Aspies and without exception, including the GLBT community. Add a few other women, including one flirtsome woman I remember from long ago, and my high school classmate in chemistry, physics, Spanish, Latin, and civics (also excellent in pre calculus and might have made a wonderful pediatrician).
Yet another example of how tainted rhetoric can effect societies.
THis just proves that we are unwanted by most of NT society. Most NT parents would rather not have an autistic child if given the choice. The question is, should these parent be forced to have an autistic child if medical technology is developed which would allow them to make this choice? To them, pregnancy with an autistic child would be the same as an unwanted pregnancy.
in that case morally speaking any step to ban any form of abortion is positive not negative progres and is the sign of wise legislation.
It's the sign of theological legislation. You claim it to be a moral right, but I bet that when pressed, you cannot prove it.
I wish people would be a little humble in moral discourse. Don't you learn from history at all?
Oops, my reply got missed. I think those opposing abortion for reasons such as the above should be encouraged instead of being flicked off. We are actually learning from history by opposing it as we see what has resulted from the prenatal test for Downs syndrome and how the great majority of affected pregnancies are terminated. Humility does not come into it at all, except when you consider the puffed-up arrogance of the people who wish to play God by removing every person they consider imperfect.
screen out male embryos to reduce significantly the chance of a couple having an autistic child.
And now, slay ye every male among the infants...
It is inevitable and unstoppable. People will employ eugenics and euthenics if they are able to.
This does say a lot about how we are perceived by the NT world.
However, it is also an extension of the sort of pre-natal efforts which fastidious people undergo such as eating only organic food or doing special yoga asanas.
Only in the mind of a sadistic monster or a complete idiot. The "pre-natal efforts" whereof you write do NOT include murdering the child if it's not "perfect" enough.
If you're so much in favor of genocide of those of us on the Spectrum, are you leading the way by your own example? If not, why not?
Anyway, I would not consider it a 'genocide' if they did
You have already been brainwashed. You are a collaborator.
More disturbingly, a London hospital applied to use IVF sex selection techniques to help couples with a family history of autism - by destroying all their male embryos.
How disgusting is that? Do human rights not apply to embryos?
Guess not, being voiceless means being rightless in this culture.
People in the west complain about human rights issues in India, where girls are often left to die after birth, but there is not really any difference to this.
Guess what, I was born female, did a sexchange, and am a geeky boyish guy now, I would have still won that race.