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Yes these posts will be seen by google now.
Theosoph, I think it is provoking Lili to make those comments, and as there has been a problem in the past and a thread had to be locked, I am asking you NOT to make such comments to Lili.
It is not her fault if the people are white, and male. All presidents of america have been the same, if she made a list of them, would it be wrong?
(rhetorical, you dont need to answer as I dont think it needs any debate).

Lili has spent a lot of time on this project and wants people to see it, hence her posting it here.

It is nothing to do with supremacy, its an interest in aspergers, history, and the people that made it.

I don't think its right to spoil someone's work, that does no harm to anyone else, and stick a spanner in the works.

I will ask her if she wants your post removed, as it was only placed here because she made it, it seems. Which does make it personal.

I hope you can see what I am saying, and put it in perspective.
Thanks for your response. I am absolutely certain that its not about supremacy, but if you think that, it does explain why you want to post and tell/warn people about it.

I made a site called http://www.celebrateautismnow.com (as a positive response against Cure Autism Now) and it was very hard to find females, and people of other races, that people have heard of. In the end I chose some people that are not well known, but have great and inspiring stories.

However, if it was just for famous people through history I would have little choice.
You just added him to the list :smile:
Could be, brief amount of info, funnily enough I was thinking about puppets earlier.
I saw a pic of Einstein with a puppet. Did anyone else like puppets as a child?
(Bit off topic)
I have seen something for Carver, but has no idea who he was until I looked, though I cannot find a source at the moment.
Really? Wow.


Edit: Just had a quick look - number 2.
Try google.com. You might be on google.au
Lili did you see the documentary I made about Einstein yet on AutTV? http://www.aspiesforfreedom.com/auttv
Famous people attract more women than an average aspie. I didn't see anything there that added or removed doubt that he was an aspie.

One simple check it if you cannot confirm someone is an aspie, can you confirm they are NT? I think for Einstein the answer is certainly no.

Did you see the Einstein video on AutTV Theosoph?

Lili Marlene Wrote:
I hope I don't seem ungrateful for help in identifying more "famous aspies". For my main list I will only include names of people who have had something pretty credible published about them being AS or autistic or claiming to be autistic, such as a book, biographical details on a pretty credible looking internet reference data base, radio show recording or transcript, article in a reputable online magazine/journal, an article in a current affairs journal (Newsweek, Time etc) or a newspaper article, professional or medical journal etc.
tle party!

I hope I don't seem..difficult?..in noting that your prose style is...almost English? In fact "Cambridge English"?

Has anyone else here seen the letter from "David" in this month's Asperger United in which the following are cited as "Aspie cousins"?
- Enid Blyton, Lewis Carroll, Roald Dahl, JM Barrie, Patricia Highsmith, George Orwell, Gary Numan, Björk, Wendy Lawson and Donna Williams.

Lewis Caroll and Patricia Highsmith have already been mentioned in this thread; JM Barrie and George Orwell have been mentioned in similarly-named threads in "General".

What about Roald Dahl? I have my doubts about him as an Aspie. He may have been a bit of an outsider, but to me he seems more of a maverick (i.e. someone who knew society's rules, but chose to flout them) than a loner. FWIW, here are a couple of excerpts from the New York Times review of Jeremy Treglown's biography:

Michiko Kakatuni Wrote:
As Roald Dahl: A Biography, Jeremy Treglown's marvelously supple and illuminating book, so nimbly demonstrates, Dahl, who died in 1990 at the age of 74, was a man of many contradictions: a Tory who loved to subvert authority, a misanthrope who found optimism in adversity, a shameless self–promoter who enjoyed giving money to worthy causes. "He was famously a war hero, a connoisseur, a philanthropist, a devoted family man who had to confront an appalling succession of tragedies," writes Mr. Treglown. "He was also, as will be seen, a fantasist, an anti–Semite, a bully and a self–publicizing troublemaker."

In the words of a longtime Dahl family friend: "Almost anything you could say about him would be true. It depended which side he decided to show you."

...

Michiko Kakatuni Wrote:
World War II enabled Dahl to live out some of his dreams: first, as a fighter pilot for the Royal Air Force (he is credited with having shot down five enemy airplanes), and later as a sometime spy for British intelligence in Washington. The experiences, this biography contends, gave him plenty of material on which to exercise his self–mythologizing imagination, and they also helped galvanize the darker aspects of his sensibility. "It can't have helped that in Washington he was professionally encouraged to practice opportunism, duplicity, entrapment," writes Mr. Treglown. "It is not far from these to the cynicism of his postwar short stories."

Storytelling began, it seems, as a way for Dahl to monopolize attention at parties; it was a way, says Mr. Treglown, for "assessing, and sometimes dominating, his listener." With the series of personal tragedies that overtook Dahl's adult life – his son was seriously injured in a car accident, his oldest daughter died of measles and his first wife, the actress Patricia Neal, suffered a debilitating stroke at the age of 38 – storytelling assumed another meaning as well. By creating a succession of children's books featuring wizards, magicians and real heroes, Mr. Treglown implies, Dahl was able to enact his own fantasies of being "powerful enough to be able to conquer illness and other misfortunes."

In the real world, of course, storytelling served more practical ends as well: as sales of his children's stories escalated into the millions, Dahl became a wealthy and famous author. According to Mr. Treglown, Dahl reveled in his business success and began campaigning in vain for a knighthood. He dispensed highly mythologized versions of his own life, even conducting a self–serving interview with himself.

As depicted in these pages, Dahl emerges as a difficult, sometimes impossible man. He bullied Ms. Neal and his children, and dealt cavalierly with the editors on whose suggestions he depended. He was also a blatant anti–Semite, arguing that "even a stinker like Hitler" hadn't picked on Jews "for no reason."

(copied and pasted from RoadDahlFans.com)

Further to my last posting ... another cut-and-paste from RoaldDahlFans.com:

What were his hobbies?

      His interests were wide and passionate, from racing greyhounds, to breeding homing budgies, medical inventions, orchids, onions, gambling, golf, wine, music, art, mushrooming and the history of chocolate. He was a collector, starting as a child with conkers and birds' eggs leading on to works of art, antiques and wine.

georgewilson Wrote:
What about musicians? There are so many genuinely eccentric ones that I'm surprised not to see any candidates listed yet.


Someone has already cited Prince as a possible Aspie - I saw it when I was browsing the forums before typing my last-but-one post to see which of the so-called "Aspie cousins" had been mentioned. I can't for the life of me remember who previously said that Prince was Aspie. A search on "Prince" produced three pages of results. Good luck to you if you feel like going through them all.

Apart from Prince, there have been several musicians mentioned in this thread: Dan Ackroyd, Hildegard of Bingen, Thelonius Monk, Steve Clark of Def Leppard, Mozart, Beethoven, Satie, Bartok, Glenn Gould, Ian Curtis of Joy Division, David Byrne of Talking Heads and Kurt Cobain to name but most of them.

I once started a thread about the link between Asperger's and musical talent: "AS and classical musicians", lurking in the depths of the General forum if you feel like resurrecting it.

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