I don't think Osama has much of a mental illness at all--it's a combination of culture, religion, and a lot of hatred. If he's got anything, I'd say antisocial personality disorder. He could be an intravert, of course. Your description does fit that. But intraversion is normal.
I don't think he could be an Aspie if he's got the charisma to send people to their deaths. Aspies just don't have that kind of social skill--I don't think we're natural leaders, or naturally gravitate to leadership roles. If we are leaders, we often lead others by writing... novels, essays, message boards. But in person? Uh-uh. His lieutenants would've overthrown him long ago if he were an Aspie.
Osama Bin Laden is too politically savvy to be Aspie.
I hadn't seen the entire list so I didn't know about Andy Kaufman being there. Bruce Chatwin was another one that I had thought of that I now found in your list. What about Richard Brautigan 1935-1984? Or Peter Sellers?
To me the interesting thing about Peter Sellers was that he was never completely comfortable out of character. (There's that famous story about his interview with Michael Parkinson and how he would only agree to be interviewed if he could come in the persona of a German soldier...)
That is interesting, but all my readings about him have mentioned a strong likelihood that he had a personality disorder...
If you have any reputable links that discuss Sellers and the possibility of Asperger's, I'd like to read them.
Well, I don't. And I don't really think he was aspie. I just think he was a very interesting character.
For the life of me I cannot think of a single rational reason why Jesus could possibly have had Asperger Syndrome. He evidently must've been very charismatic-which certainly would require some pretty good social skills(and some empathy). BTW Lili Marlene, I Never said nor implied that you cannot diagnose dead people! But I firmly believe that AS is being overdiagnosed AND that many famous people are being claimed if you will as having AS simply because they are(or were) eccentric when I see no evidence that they had social impairment. On that note is seems like every famous mathematician is suspected of having asperger syndrome-which AFAIC plays onto stereotypes of Aspies. Why William Butler Yeasts though?
I do not have any sort of communications disability for that matter-certainly NOT a cognitive one Mizz Marlene(!). Im not accusing you of spurious claims but your last post came across as though you are trying to patronize us for being skeptical of the claims made in the links you have posted. It really isnt personal, Im just wanting to know the actual Truth rather than what you or anyone else may [i]want[i/]
I pefectly aware of that MaxTheBear.
Well said Droog. When I saw Jesus on a list of people who might've had Aspergers I assumed at first that it was a joke.But it then occured to me that some folks were seriously speculating about it. This reminds me of way back in the early to mid 90s when there was wild speculation about historical figures being gay-or possibly being gay. Or even gays claim that everyone is bisexual. I guess a lot of Aspies are looking for role models-without a doubt it has a political agenda. But Asperger Syndrome is quite a bit more than just eccentricity, or the appearance of it.
You are misquoting and misinterpreting what I've been trying to say. As for your your point made by A):The term "gay" may be recent but the concept of (male)homosexuality has been understood for Thousands of years.If you are going to speculate that a historical figure might have been an aspie there has to be more than just a reputation for eccentricity to make a valid case!!! Dont you people get it?! I've heard claims that Thomas Jefferson had AS, so did Stonewall Jackson, and just about everyfamous historic mathematician and/or physicist is thought to have has Aspergers....When I asked for justification of the listing of the famous people on the link she presented she didnt bother to explain why those people on that list were thought to have had Aspergers.
That's simply not true.
Well the ancient greeks[not to mention the persians before them]sure as hell knew about it! WHAT on earth makes you think that homosexuality is a new concept?
Ziyaret, you are ignorant of this subject and you seem intent on staying that way
Ahh, the pot calling the kettle black ;-)
I hope you realize that male Bonobo's[a chimpanzee species closely related to humans] have been observed **** each others asses. So clearly what we call "homosexual" behaviour has been around for a looooong time; even if there wasnt a word for it. So look here bub, you think you're right and I'm wrong why dont you cite your sources!.
BTW, I do not claim to be an expert on homosexuality nor do I care that much. However, I should like to point out that since such behaviour is mentioned in the Bible[the old testament for that matter], there's a very good chance that it was known about for a long time. It was YOU who diverted this thread to arguing about homosexuality and not I.So why dont you just STFU and get back on topic.
and it's plainly obvious that she has hypertelorism and a monotone voice.
hypertelorism - is this a trait common in aspergers/autism?
I have heard a little about Michael Fitzgerald and my personal take is that he is an idiot.
My feeling is that Hitler was a narcissitic psychopath - he was able to get on with and charm people. He was idolised. This doesn't fit with aspergers.