I agree that saying Jesus Christ had Asperger's is quite ridiculous. Although he probably really existed, nowadays he's more of a mythological person than a historical person. A lot has been written about him, but none of that really written by people who actually knew him (although it looks that way, but the bible has been changed many times). I really don't think you can say anything about his personality other than that he was charismatic and showed a lot of empathy...which makes me think he's definitely NOT an aspie.
Oh nevermind I suppose, you replied to EZ that you tend to believe a person's self-DX, at least based on the merits of honesty.
I do not know many famous people's biographies to an extent to make an judgement on if they could have likely been Autistic. However I strongly feel the following famous persons were; Issac Newton, Andy Kaufman, Nikola Tesla, Kurt Cobain (I had a discussion with another autistic online saying she believed he was).
I really don't agree with you on that one, sorry. We know he had an ADHD diagnosis at a young age, and was medicated for it with Desoxyn. Not saying he couldn't also have AS, but from what I've read/seen of him, I don't see it.
and if you read this book it will be clear that he was a most unusual, and probably educationally disabled, person:
Andy Kaufman went to college and I believe graduated, I think that is sufficient proof that he was not learning disabled, if you ask me anyway.
Lili Marlene, can you tell me anything about Stanley Kubrick?
I have my doubts about him because, contrary to popular knowledge, he was not very reclusive or "cold." He maintained a long list of friends who he had regular contact with, up until his death after finishing the final edit for "Eyes Wide Shut."
I have read that Kubrick tended to be exceedingly meticulous (and resultantly "slow") with his work. I think he was almost too dedicated to his work. These could be the traits of a perfectionist, but you also frequently see this style of working with people on the spectrum. Things have to be "just right," and it takes a while for them to make it so.
Once they get things "just right," however, the result is often extraordinary.
georgewilson, I think the only one on your list that may hold some weight is Ms. Rajskub, the rest I regard as a possible April Fool's Joke come too early...
Lili Marlene, what makes you think Michael Jackson is an Aspie? There are some obvious indicators there, he certainly has high eccentricity and some sort of "youthful" persona, well I can see where you would go with this.. but, is there anything concrete about him and his alleged case of AS?
Regarding Prince, while I remain skeptical about his possible AS, I don't think a man having a "feminine" personality would be a reason to exclude an ASC. From what I've read of the stereotypes, generally I see that "masculine" is commonly used to describe AS females, while "sensitive/shy" is commonly used to describe AS males. It can also be vice versa--from my limited research and observation on the topic.
Lastly, being oversensitive--at least from personal experience as a male with AS--can make emotions very powerful and intense. If you're good at finding outlets for them, you might be inclined to tap into that realm. Artists would naturally be good at this.
I know it's not an acceptable reason to exclude an ASC, but generally I do not think of exceptional skills in dancing, fluidity of body movement, excellent coordination, etc. as being typical of AS. It seems most of us have some degree of trouble in small/large motor movement.
I'm just saying if Jackson is AS, he is most certainly atypical in a lot of ways.
Anyone have any thoughts on Bob Dylan?
From what I know of the man, I'd say either off spectrum (highly eccentric) or maybe a borderline case at best. Just my very unprofessional guesses.
Regarding Bob Dylan, I saw at least two different pieces of movie/video of him rocking in what I thought was an autistic manner when I watched part of one of the parts of the two part doocumentary on Bob Dylan's life "No Direction Home". I guess if anyone were to watch the whole thing through they'd see more rocking. I believe Dylan has a reputation for rocking (and I don't mean rock and roll).
On its own, though, that's not enough to suggest AS.
His love of change seems odd for someone who may have AS. "If you're not busy changing, you're busy dying." -Bob Dylan
I think some Aspies can be quite adaptable if they are absolutely forced out of their comfort zone.
I know *I* wouldn't be...
Its my understanding that Hilter was (manic-depressive)Bipolar to say the very least.What I often wonder is if he may have been Schizoaffective, which is a hybrid condition of bipolarism combined with paranoid delusions seen in schizophrenia. Nonetheless Im quite certain the man was Not an aspie or anywhere on the spectrum.
Daniel Johnston (see "Devil in Daniel Johnston") is a good example of someone with Schizoaffective Bipolar.
I think Philip K. Dick was possibly schizoaffective (haven't read anything that suggests full-blown schizophrenia in him) or at least schizotypical.
Lili Marlene, I wasn't suggesting Daniel Johnston or Philip K. Dick were on the autistic spectrum. I was merely trying to provide examples of well-known names who are believed to have some kind of Schizoaffective thing going on.
Johnston's official diagnosis is Bipolar disorder, but obviously it is no stretch to say he had the Schizoaffective variant of it, just by reading up on him.
Did he really have charm and charisma, anyway? A strange Germanic kind of charisma, I'd say. Would Hitler have a chance if he were running in the current US elections? I don't think so.
Charisma??? What the... Do you really think it was charisma? If that's your view on German history... Hitler had NO kind of charisma. He just had the ability to make the German people go mad. OK, he was able to persuade, but that was not charisma - it was just psychology.
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