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Brain Inflammation Found in Autism

ISLAMABAD: Children with autism have inflammation in their brains, although it is not yet clear whether the inflammation actually causes the condition, researchers said.

Tests on the brain tissue of 11 patients with autism who had died and spinal fluid from six living children with autism showed the activation of immune system responses, the team at Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine in Baltimore and the University of Milan found.

"These findings reinforce the theory that immune activation in the brain is involved in autism, although it is not yet clear whether it is destructive or beneficial, or both, to the developing brain," said Dr. Carlos Pardo-Villamizar of Johns Hopkins, who led the study.

Autism is a brain disorder usually seen as children become toddlers. Affecting an estimated two to five out of every 1,000 children, autism has a spectrum of symptoms that include difficulty with social interaction and repetitive behaviors.

In a study published in the online edition of the Annals of Neurology, Pardo and colleagues said they found abnormal activity by immune system signaling chemicals called chemokines in the autistic patients.

"This ongoing inflammatory process was present in different areas of the brain and produced by cells known as microglia and astroglia," said Pardo.

"Scientists have found hints that the immune system may be involved in autism, but not all studies have confirmed this," Pardo added in a statement.

"We wanted a more definitive answer, so rather than looking at the overall immune system, we focused on immune responses inside the relatively sealed environment of the nervous system."

No one knows what causes autism, although experts have largely rejected purported links with childhood vaccines.

The condition is strongly influenced by genes. If one identical twin has autism, for instance, the other is also usually affected.


Pardo said more study would be needed to show if the inflammation itself underlies autism, or is a reaction to something else that causes the condition.

I noticed this story on google news, but its from last year and I dont know why they are writing about the study now. Strange.
Well, a lot of autistics have immune systems that are not "typical".  Inflammation anywhere on our bodies is therefore not uncommon.  But I doubt that the inflammation is the cause of autism, more likely the genes predisposing to autism cause the autoimmune problems which then lead to inflammation (think IBS, eczema, or my own Hashimoto's.)
Alison
yeah but people who do not have autism still get autoimmune disorders: arthitis, Crohn's, eczema.  Flare-ups of these disorders come and go.  I think I am quite consistently autistic all the time for my whole life.

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Flare-ups of these disorders come and go. I think I am quite consistently autistic all the time for my whole life.


The idea is that as a young child, there was an immune response in your brain that "hard-wired" it to become autistic.

I don't think that autism can be completely attributed to the immune system either, there have been several genes discovered that relate to autism but have nothing to do with the immune system.

So something such as a virus that only affects the immune system and/or certain growing/developing parts of the brain that are different in people with autism.    Give the same virus to an adult and they will not develop autism or are they immune to it?   Give the virus to a baby rat and you get a rat with autism - really how would anyone know if a rat had autism?  

I really do not have any point of view on this theory as there is really no facts or evident.  It is just a theory.  

If we had some autism causing virus floating around in us, it would have been found already.  But then if it could only be detected in the brain that would mean they would need alot of dead people with autism to harvest.  I really don't want to think about it.  I will not donate my body to science.

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If we had some autism causing virus floating around in us, it would have been found already


What if it was just some regular old virus that the immune system responded to in an abnormal way?

We'd have to have pretty wacky immune systems for that to happen

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So something such as a virus that only affects the immune system and/or certain growing/developing parts of the brain that are different in people with autism.    Give the same virus to an adult and they will not develop autism or are they immune to it?   Give the virus to a baby rat and you get a rat with autism - really how would anyone know if a rat had autism?  

I really do not have any point of view on this theory as there is really no facts or evident.  It is just a theory.  

If we had some autism causing virus floating around in us, it would have been found already.  But then if it could only be detected in the brain that would mean they would need alot of dead people with autism to harvest.  I really don't want to think about it.  I will not donate my body to science.


Unfortunately we have heard of a certain charity that was spamming parents asking for them to donate their child's brains, while the children in question were still alive.

Personally, I find the idea of someone examining my brain in order to find a cure disgusting on multiple levels. I also find the thought of a parent being asked to give their child's brain to autism research incredibly disgusting, but these are unfortunately not the kind of stories we see in the media.

Apologies to everyone for recently picking up a "post multiple times in succession" habit, but here's a link to the thread where we discussed brain donation:

http://www.aspiesforfreedom.com/phpBB2/v...php?t=2280
Gareth, it isn't at ALL odd for immune systems to react and produce a disease that most people would never catch.


Take necrotisizing fasciitis/myositis, its caused by Streptococcus type A, of a haemolytic type, and literally eats away at muscle fascia, and if your lucky, it kills you within 12 hours, most people carry this bacteria in their throats and on skin, yet never develop either disease.

Some people, get a tiny scratch, and a few hours later, are rotten and gangrenous all over (it spreads incredibly fast)

So it isn't a hard thing to have happen, just unpleasant.

As for burial, I want to be embalmed and sealed in an egyptian-style sarcophagus, lets see those scum examine my brain after its been pulled out of my nose in pieces :lol:

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Gareth, it isn't at ALL odd for immune systems to react and produce a disease that most people would never catch.


Take necrotisizing fasciitis/myositis, its caused by Streptococcus type A, of a haemolytic type, and literally eats away at muscle fascia, and if your lucky, it kills you within 12 hours, most people carry this bacteria in their throats and on skin, yet never develop either disease.

Some people, get a tiny scratch, and a few hours later, are rotten and gangrenous all over (it spreads incredibly fast)

So it isn't a hard thing to have happen, just unpleasant.

As for burial, I want to be embalmed and sealed in an egyptian-style sarcophagus, lets see those scum examine my brain after its been pulled out of my nose in pieces :lol:


I know someone who had that infection, my former MIL who also had severe rhumetoid arthritis. She was on some medication for her arthritis that weakened her immune system to the point when after a cast was put on to treat a dislocated shoulder, she got that flesh-eating bacteria. She nearly died as a result, and had several skin grafts to repair where the dead tissue was removed. The area where she had the infection looked like she had a 3rd degree burn as it was mostly grafted skin and scar tissue. As a result of this infection and the arthritis, she is largely wheelchair bound. She was extremely lucky, if she didn't get to the hospital when she did, she would have died.

I remember one paper in Uta Frith's book that suggested that some instances of Autistic Disorder (as per DSM III criteria--the book was published a while ago) may actually result in an otherwise Asperger individual whose mother had rubella during the pregnancy; the suggestion is that rubella or some other common disease caused some sort of damage that brought their levelof functioning down significantly.  This was in reference to families that had both Low Functioning Autism and Asperger syndrome.  The idea that autism (as in Autism Spectrum Diagnosis) results from an infection could be very well be a corruption of that paper.
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