In the first link I said this:
Oh entirely Pakrat... Society isn't as caring as it used to be, largely BECAUSE of abortion. Life has been cheapened. As mentioned before, the ol' "You should of had an abortion" comes to mind. And that doesn't only cheapen the life of the child, it cheapens the life of the mother. It is sad how so many pro-choicers don't see the wider affect of their actions... Though we must remember that people have always gone through hard times, and raising a child is always hard... though doing it as a single mother would be undoubtedly harder, it does get done... and quite often these days. It is that same feminist ideology that brought us abortion, that brought us sex out of wedlock... a HUGE cause of abortion. This might make some peoples jowls raise, but i must say, a women with a child NEEDS a man, and a baby/child needs a father. It is the natural way of things, the man brings back the food while the woman nurses the child. It makes the situation easier on everyone. And fathers are an important center for discipline, so many kids growing up without their dads grow up to be felons compared to those without. It seems that the change for the sake of change that the left wing so loves, has not been for the best... as was obvious from the begining.
Now, Even though yes I have said before that I believe abortion to be murder, It definitely wasn't in my last post... and You know I don't believe in absolutes... I stated many times about rape. And about the grey area in the first trimester and the importance of consciousness. So please do not try to paint a picture the wrong shade.
In the second I spoke about homosexuality as a lifestyle as compared to a mode for self exploration, not exactly what you stated I said, Zakkie. "Homosexuality is Evil".
And in the third and final Link you posted I pointed out the most essential distinction facing aspies, and though yes while I did use the poop smearing generalization... It was in reference to LFA.... a large percentage of whom actually do engage in this behavior.
I advise anyone reading Zakkies comment on my posts to read them yourselves and make up your own minds If I truly said what is being purported. And Zakkie, you twisted my words
Not v Nice!
Abortion is not always unwarranted, there is nothing wrong with individual homosexual experiences, and i have no idea about the validity of my final statement one way or another, I made it to stress the point about how society sees these people, true or not. I have heard of many many cases of it though, I do not know the percentages. So for the final statement yes, I am sorry.
I just wrote a whole post but it didn't appear, I'll try to retype it.
Firstly I dont have all that great social skills, but i do believe very firmly in my conclusions, thus the name. I never try to be disrespectful on purpose
. I have trouble there, you know? The post in WOW that you linked was just because SO many kids have tantrums in the shopping center, its an epidemic not unique to kids on the spectrum... Thats all i was pointing out, maybe the kid was just being naughty? I didn't see that post as offensive.
Logical
Batman, I thought AFF represents "Aspies for Freedom". I stated in my post about homosexuality that though I disagree with it, and I never said Evil or disgusting or anything like that... I support the right of those who do it, to do it. Their private choice. Hardly not words of freedom. My Autism vs Aspies post was Aspiecentric, and as an aspie I feel it was in the best interests of my future children (which have a likelihood to be boys as the males of my family always seem to spawn more boys... thus a high chance of them having aspies) That I should look out for them. This close Alliance with LFA and the rest of the autistic spectrum doesn't help Aspies at all, we are in a unique position as a newer and more largely unknown condition to cast ourselves in a unique and positive light. Grouping ourselves with people who are known to poop smear, maybe not the brightest and most logical action.
Logicalconclusion
Just because you say its not a choice (homosexuality) , doesn't make it true. However I'm tired of talking about homosexuality, because as previously stated, I don't care what others get up to enough to want to punish them for it. As long as they don't push it on my kids when they are born, I really don't care. We are going to home school anyhow.
Logicalconclusion
You do not like what I say, So i am saying it JUST to make you Mad?
This is the difference, I ask questions and want to debate. You on the other hand feel completely within your rights to insult me directly. Do you think your writings would sound entirely fair and balanced to any objective (off board) third party? Mine are far more mundane. I do not even question your logic, until now, directly... In continually making a statement with absolutely ZERO proof.
"Homosexuality is an intrinsic difference just as real as autism. Nobody can 'push it' onto anyone, and no-one can possibly decide to be heterosexual if they are not. Big of you not to care enough to punish someone for being different."
Once again, that is a statement, not proof of anything. I just said I was willing to give up and walk away, but you just had to stick the knife in again didn't you? I was done... and then this. My philosophy is very easy to discern.
I do not believe in Homosexuality but even though my strong convictions (which are my right to hold) I would not stop them from doing as they see fit.
I am pro Life because I believe in justice for all, especially the young. They deserve to leave the womb with their minds unfilled with toxin.
I believe in limited government, and fairness for all under law. That means no affirmative action, no social laws of any kind. Marriage itself should not be a state function. Follow the constitution.
Death Penalty in extreme cases, if you have committed murder and DNA proves it, it is not up for the tax payers to look after you... you deserve to die for what you have done. There is justice in that.
The philosophy is easy. Conservative Libertarian. I believe in the importance of a moral society, but also in a limited and restricted government... so I could never agree with morality being legislated.
I have looked at every political standing, this one seems to be the best as far as its fairness, justice and overall quality of society.
Logicalconclusion
I do not have a need to cause conflict, I have a need to debate and discuss. I can not help it if almost everyone here is so politically opposite me, that any mention of my position causes strife... In my message on this thread I simply stated my position... And i did it without resorting to name calling or Nazi analogies. Tigger jumped out at me and chaos ensued. You cannot blame a guy for trying to defend himself from outright frontal attack.
Logicalconclusion
This isn't supposed to be a left wing forum, this is an Aspie forum paradox. And tigger, it takes more than your assertion to override my assertion. The burden of proof is just as much upon you as it is myself. You don't have to think much of the constitution of the USA, you are living in Australia and their constitution is based on it.
If by "pathetic attempts to right the wrongs of centuries" You are talking about a never ending guilt trip for white people, many of whom like yourself live far enough away so that they can blame other white people (forgetting that the UK had slavery of course) and join in on the bashing, good job on that by the way.
I protect innocent life, the life of a murderer is not my or anyone elses responsibility, except for that persons own. If they are so violent that they need to be put down to PROTECT other peoples lives and property (even in jail), then so be it.
And if "Conservative Libertarian" sounds oxymoronic, then I guess thats because of your unfamiliarity with US politics. Ron Paul, someone who's feelings are almost completely akin to mine, is currently running for the Presidency..
too bad he wont win, the Media pays him much less attention. Go look up Ron Paul though, youtube him. Thats my policies.
(I'm starting to believe you on the jumping, but please pause to wonder if you are overreacting before you jump again...) I'm off for now
bbl
Logicalconclusion
Ocampo, I was refering to my willingness to leave it at that... obviously you, guesswho, and tigger... aren't allowing that to happen... And why should I be reported for saying I do not wish homosexuality to be displayed around my children, that seems like "You are either with us, or against us" I cannot simply be a non-conscientious objector?
People take my posts and immediately read only, ONLY the bad. From their very biased left wing vantage points.
logicalconclusion Wrote:
Don't say "If we stand together, we will prevail" or any of that crap, we are talking about people who rip their clothes off and smear poop... who can not talk, people who are seriously DISABLED. If we lump our fortunes together with these people, unborn aspies who will be able to live normal productive as the average person lives (albeit in our aspie manner) will be murdered for no reason whatsoever. Is it fair to show "Autism Speaks" to someone considering terminating an Aspie Life? (Not to say it is fair when considering ending ANYONES life, but surely it is even less accurate when considering aspies.)
Now we look at the words "smear poop" which many parents of autistic kids, can Identify with. So that is a public perception, deal with it. But we don't read:
Is it fair to show "Autism Speaks" to someone considering terminating an Aspie Life? (Not to say it is fair when considering ending ANYONES life, but surely it is even less accurate when considering aspies.)
We especially keep our eyes off of the second line of that sentence because it takes away from our pure rage.
Please read over my comments, and you will notice that even though there are occasional flash points in them, I do always put a qualifier in there. Read the statement as a whole.
Causing Offense? How delightfully generic.
You know earthmonkey, you make some good points.
I'm sorry to any homosexuals or lesbians whose thread I interrupted. I'll leave you to it. I still hold what I said, but it was probably a bit forward for me to argue it this far in this particular place... even though most of my arguments simply consisted of defenses of my own character... My apologies again,
Logicalconclusion
*Raises hand*
Bisexual, transexual, and an aspie.
Hi everyone!
I'm an aspie and I'm gay. I'm happy I finally found a place where I can find consolation and understanding. I'm not alone!
Greetings to you all from little Belgium!
Take care,
Sammy
I think - I dare say - that it is quite possible that an aspie is not as conerned about "acting" normal or following "social mores" or is either not aware of the "pressures" to conform or naturally resists them... so that may account for an aspies willingness to leave gender out of equation when it comes to his/her openness to a social partner of his/her same sex.