Well, I don't know if gay bars are like that horrible place in "Queer As Folk" but I couldn't envisage a more dingy, dreary and depressing place than that one.
I never was a bar/club person (not gay and no intention of being gay) because they are noisy, smoky and full of people just looking for one night stands.
I always think a better way of meeting a compatible partner (whatever your sexual orientation) is through similar interests.
Is that like Dungeons and Dragons?
I'm not gay but I am aspie.
Ah yes, "bloke" - that was a really funny song and an hilarious film-clip. Chris Franklin followed it up with two more singles "Beer Is My Poison" and "Mullet Head".
I'm ambivalent about "ockers" - if they are the good-hearted ones and just a little rough around the edges, that's fine but if they are very misogynistic and male chauvinistic, I don't like them much.
I'd have got really embarrassed if a girl befriended me because they thought I was gay. Had I have been gay, it might have been different though.
Best advice I can give is to just be friends and try not to get your hopes up too much, for he might be straight for all you know.
Richard L, threesomes are icky. Eww!
What about women who are very rational about some topics but quite emotional about others?
Yeah Batman55, that's certainly true. Though I never made such a claim that "likes it there=gay". The thing is, it seems like certain people are just looking to be offended. Moreover, I am rather suprised that my posts having to do with gender and sexuality are just about always interpreted as being 'offensive'. Other than the thread about Strumpets no one has explicitly told me what is its Exactly about my posts that offends people. I firmly believe that some of the things I have said are in fact, unpleasant truths and it certainly annoys me when people get offended by someone who promulgates the truth.
Ziyaret, gender and sexuality are very sensitive topics for many people. I'm not immune from this. It gets annoying when people put me down simply because I was born with certain physical attributes and not others.
As I said quite some time ago, I have experienced far more discrimination in life by virtue of being a female than because of having Asperger's syndrome.
When people start making negative responses to your comments, that usually means they find something offensive and unlikeable to them. I got upset in that other forum because I like babies and animals and would rather see more respect for life rather than less.
Over the years, I have already seen a worrying trend in this area. Civilisations such as the Romans and the Greeks eventually faltered because infanticide was practiced on an increasing basis, particular among the more wealthy.
I don't want to get into another debate about the rights and wrongs of this kind of thing after all the trouble that happened a few days ago.
It's just that it's a good idea to take notice when others start to object to certain things. They might on occasions be touchy, but then again, is it possible you could be saying things a bit too bluntly for them to handle.
Why would you want to hang around an un-salubrious place such as that, Ziyaret.
BTW, what country do you live in? I think you would find that the USA actually has quite a low birthrate like nearly all other Western countries.
In fact, in some of the Western countries, there is a negative birthrate and that is why the governments are doing things such as paying a baby bonus to people to encourage them to have more children.
Still, not a really high birthrate so no real reason for concern.
Perhaps Australia is a fairly sexist society but there would be far worse. Much of the sexism is subtle, for instance girls being steered towards playing with Barbie dolls and boys towards trucks and building blocks. Girls are also expected to smile and act cute whereas boys are allowed to be more aggressive and are discouraged from crying.
Oh. Yeah...I dunno if we are fairly sexist. Sexism is an abstract concept and the reason it is hard to quantify is because like many such abstract concepts it means different things to different people. I think Australia is fast becoming less and less sexist and the "old-fashioned" values towards women are becoming obsolete.
Is this an entirely good thing though? I am by regards to my age and upbringing, sexist. I do tend to hold on to old fashion values. Many which I believe are virtues being weeded out of society by equality of treatment. I, perhaps stupidly, still treat women differently than I treat men. I do believe in being gentlemanly towards women no matter how out-dated the concept is.
I extend courtesy and manners towards them to an extent I wouldn't in a fellow man, Australian or not. Guilty as charged.
Furthermore the Australian women I know do not see my behaviour as abhorent. I think Sexism is like all similar abstracts open towards misuse and it is unfortunate that our reputation as a society has been diminished for this reason.
I am sure in 10-15 years with the passage of times we men and women will be treated the same. The days of lady-like and gentlemanly behaviour will not exist and then the international opinions of Australia being a fairly sexist society will not exist.
Rossco, I don't mind if a man opens a door for me or lets me go into the lift first as I think it is nice to see some people still have good manners these days. Those women who abuse men for extending these courtesies only make it more difficult for other women.
The main type of sexism I have personal experience with is the type that says that just because a person is female, they can't be interested in cars, home repairs, insects, mud, reptiles, rats, talking about politics and science and similar and that they can't do certain subjects at school.
There's also the idea that women who don't dress well and wear make-up are lesbians or dags (what's so wrong with being either?)
There's also the good old double-standard (sarcasm) with regard to sex whereby a woman who is promiscuous is considered a slut but a male who does the same is thought of as some kind of a hero. My dad used to tell me in all seriousness that a woman who didn't wait until her wedding night would be considered "shopworn goods".
Maybe this isn't quite as far-fetched as I thought though as I know of some men even now who wouldn't marry a woman unless she were a virgin (not so bad if they are the same but if they've slept around a lot, how can they possibly expect to find a woman who hasn't had at least one boyfriend in her time).
Ziyaret, I think you are one very confused person. Perhaps it would be best not to worry about relationships for a while and take up some kind of interest that will distract you from getting so anxious about the whole thing. Relationships are most likely to happen when you're not actively looking for them.
Also, you might want to consider that some people don't like such graphic language (whether that's fair or not isn't something for me to say but it is the truth).
You're right that Im vulgar as all get-out Dr. Ando. Sometimes I suspect that I might have comorbid Tourette Syndrome but the shrinks insist I dont.
Ziyaret, I think you have potty mouth and the only cure I can think of right now is to wash your mouth out with soap and water.
Didn't anybody in your family teach you good manners when you were a boy?
I would be happy to stop bringing it up. It is not important to say what everyone knows, it is important to say what they don't know.
Case in point, I thought the Sabbath was on Sunday.
A Seventh Day Adventist showed me in five minutes why the Sabbath was on Saturday.
Now a lot of so-called Christians not only think the Sabbath is on Sunday they also think they "should" hate gay people.
"Everybody who hates his brother is a murderer, and we know a murderer has no everlasting life."
It's one thing to get the days mixed up, but if you hate your brother, you're killing yourself.
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Christians are not in the inventing God business like Emile Durkheim said, "Voice society, Voice God"
God is not the same as American culture
Our Book, which we presume to written with God's permission, says what God likes and dislikes as far as behavior. That is all.
But vengenance belongs to God. Love is our order, to love, to help guide people to safety, not to disseminate poison.
Just think about it.
Yeah, I've had some thoughts. Now, there are plenty of perfectly good Christians who believe the sabbath is on Sunday. If you want to believe it's Saturday that's fine but please stop dissing people who believe that it is Sunday instead.