Aspies For Freedom

it's not.  probaly it was something else.

probaly just propadanga.

How stupid. Studies have shown that thiomersal is absolutley completely harmless, ESPECIALLY in dental fillings.

It also amazes me how they could possibly link her symptoms to autism.Besides, if there a false symptoms attributed to autism, I want to them to at least be something cool, like being able to read minds(There is actually some website I ran across once that stated thaty autistics had "enhanced telepathic capabilities" due to our difficulties in communication or something.)

The woman sounds to me, like she did indeed suffer mercury toxicity, fairly typical sounding neurotoxic insult, and my guess, is that she correlated her symptoms, with her kid's, who knows? her kind might well have been throwing the odd (sometimes very odd :lol: ) wobbler, as for eating problems, I have known a good few, more auties, than aspies, who had various eating problems.

I am sure the two of their symptoms/behaviours might have correlated, but I think she forgot that correlation!=causality.

I am not saying thimerosal is the cause of autism (or completely discounting it could be an aggravating co-factor), but its most certainly NOT  harmless. it is a known teratogen, and possibly carcinogenic, one thing about its metabolite, ethylmercury, is that like MeHg, it preferentianlly acts as a neurotoxin, the only injected LD:50 that I was able to track down was IP:14.5mg/kg, in the rat (rats are, in general, a lot harder to poison than us humans, also, mercury-based poisons are cumulative (hence the phrase "mad as a hatter", coming from Hg exposure from the felt they used to use)

I wasn't saying it did, what I meant, was that the woman, almost certainly suffered acute  Hg toxicity, and seeing as her kid had been exposed to it, assumed a causal relationship.

I certainly wouldn't rule out ethylmercury though, from causing brain damage, in research, MeHg is used to blow massive holes in animals brain tissue, heres a couple of toxicological studies on the stuff.


http://risk.lsd.ornl.gov/tox/profiles/me...f_V1.shtml

http://www.inchem.org/documents/jecfa/je...4jec13.htm

Slightly OT, I once heard on the news of a woman in the US who decided to "self-treat" her corns by trying to blow them off her foot with a shotgun!  I'm so glad I'm not normal.

Alison

Hi all,
I hope you will allow me to give my side of the story as I am the person you are discussing here.

I will be the first to admit that the article was extremely weak, a reporter picked it up in a hurry and that is what was produced.

Edit: link removed

Many of my symptoms were identical to all of those my daughter had, how could I suddenly have become autistic in many ways?

I couldn't make eye contact, I could not bear to be touched, I wore the same clothes day in, day out because everything else made my skin hurt.
I became sensitive to sounds and would shy away from anything that was even likely to make a noise.


This definitely sounds a lot more similar to autism than in he article.

I still disagree that austism is caused by mercury poisoning.
however, people could suffer from mercury poisoning and display symptoms that are similar to autism., although they have a different rout cause. however there is an added dimension in mercury poisoning which autism obviously would not have: that of illness.

We cannot say what doesn't cause autism until we know what does.

Qualified medical doctors are not in a position to detect mercury poison, toxicology laboratories are.
I had more than 10 tests on my hair and nails over the period I suffered at a NHS laboratory.

Hi Amy,
Yes, I am aware that people do turn to Chelation and in no way do I advocate chelating small children and nor would I with any adult who merely suspects mercury poison especially is they still had amalgams in their mouths.

I had lots of none autism related symptoms which could have been put down to almost anything.
No my daughter did not loose a vast amount of weight or suffer any collapsing episodes, mine was a massive amount of mercury in comparison to the amount she had received inside the childhood vaccines.
But then her brain was still very immature when she received the mercury (Thermisol) I believe the impact was just as severe.

Surely we can at least agree that no amount of mercury is good for a tiny baby?

No they did not suspect it because all they did was blood tests, it does not show up in blood samples - I did not suspect it either because I had no idea that mercury was inside amalgam, therefore how could I have made a connection?

My testing was all done at an NHS lab paid for by my GP.

You choose not to believe, I really do not have an issue with that, you are not the first and you won't be the last.

No money changed hands of that you can rest assured.
The reporter wrote the piece.


I felt as you chose to reproduce the article onto your site I felt I should step forward.

Hospitals are NOT dentists, so I had to go to a dentist to have my amalgams replaced, nothing convoluted in that.
You cannot not chelate until the mercury source is removed.

It is rare but certainly possible to get mercury poisoning from amalgam fillings.  One well-known example is Garry Cobain from the Future Sound of London (you know some of their music if not the name).

Genes predispose a person to autism but it isn't yet known whether environmental factors are also involved.

I hate to sound like a broken record in repeating myself, as I know most of the people in this group have heard me state this on other threads.  But since Louisa is apparently following this thread, please bear with me:

Hi, Louisa.  I'm a middle-aged woman who has recently been diagnosed with Aspergers.  My mum tells me I didn't start talking until age three, not even to babble, so obviously I had it at least from birth.  I was only diagnosed in the last couple of years because it was found that I had a serious autoimmune disorder which had been getting steadily worse.  As a result of the autoimmune problem I had extensive tests done, which showed up the autism, but the point is the tests INCLUDED checking for mercury and other heavy metal (ie lead) overexposure.  None were found - let me just restate this: I AM autistic, I have been since birth, and I have had NO EXPOSURE to mercury or heavy metals of any sort.  Okay, clear?  Because I get sick and tired of saying the same thing over and over again to curebies, and I'm sure everybody else in this group would wish I'd stop repeating myself as well.  If curebies would just get the simple message through their thick skulls - mercury does not cause autism.  Yes, it's nasty to be overexposed to, yes, it's highly toxic.  But what it categorically doesn't do is cause autism.  

Alison

Hi Alison, dont want to get into a whole debate over diagnosis but i was just curious as to why they didnt give you a dx of HFA rather than Asperger's; beginning to speak at 3 years is definitely 'clinically' significant. AS people dont have clinically significant speech delay. Or do you have an additional dx of dyspraxia?

prehaps you should read these:

http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRela...airmercury
http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRela...rcury.html