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This may be all true but we are more likely to be accused of criminal behaviour just because we are different.
The next step should be to have a questionnaire of autistics to find out if they have ever been accused of a crime that they havent commited.

In theory we could have a poll here, but it wouldnt carry much weight, and we would need a comparison poll on an NT forum.
You know what? Even if it is true that we are more statiscally likely to be involved with crime, there is still no justification for discrimantion against us. It could be said that blacks and other minorities are statiscally more likely to be involved in crime but so what? It's still illegal to discriminate against them although police commonly still use racial profiling.  This practice is discriminatory even if statiscally relevent.

WatsonSword Wrote:
To really dispel the myth of the criminal autistic, I believe you'd nee only look at statistics.

Take a population with a higher than average number of Aspies, I believe my very own hometown of Portland Oregon would qualify, and look at the criminal statistics of the city.

What's the ratio of criminals to non-criminals in the non-aspies vs the ratio in aspies. I'd be willing to bet it's the same. And in that case, it would be all but proof that there's no link between the two.


I have met a lot of aspies from Portland, Oregon, so I agree with you.

rossco

Here is a thought. We hear a lot of press saying "Man with Asperger's Syndrome kills", Asperger's sufferer commits suicide" and the like. Now if someone who autistic commits suicide they will say it was due to their depression. If a depressed autistic person commits suicide they blame it on the fact they have autism. The same goes with mental instability/psychological disorders. NT = fault lies with psychological disorder. Autistic = fault lies with neurological condition. Why is this?
I too have been blamed in the past for things I didn't do.
I now dislike cops intensely. I was about to cross the road the other day and a cop car drove past. I instinctively pulled my children against me to sheild the from the cops and glared at them. The cops looked over and smiled at the "happy family" before looking away after seeing the look on my face.
Though I hadn't said anything my little daughter whispered "I don't like the police either Daddy". I mumbled something about they have a job to do, which meant nothing really. She then asked my little boy if he liked police. Connor stated he did and she reiterated she didn't. I left it there.
I am very law-abiding.

rossco

Sorry post doesn't make sense. It should read "Now if someone who IS NOT autistic commits suicide they will say it was due to their depression."
Bear with me I am autistic and miss bits sometimes.
In states of US were you have death penalty, I've heard that gay people are more likely to get a death penalty for the same crime than others. Not heard it but I guess that count for black people too.

rossco

In Australia, statistically, women get a lesser sentence for the same crime as their male counterparts, apparently.

rossco

Ryuujin. Exactly! That's what I was saying earlier. You are autistic with a mental illness and you murder someone the cause is NOT mental illness, it is your autism. If you were NT they would blame it on your mental illness. why the double-standard. No idea! It does taint the uninformed public though to our expense. It sucks! We have enough to deal with as is now the media is making our lifes infinately harder. Imagine this: just prior to disclosing your secret, carefully masked autism to a close friend, they say "*** man. Have you heard about all that weird *** those high-functioning autistic dudes are up to? They are murdering people and committing suicide all around the place. *** they are weird! Sorry what did you want to talk to me about?" That is media perception. The majority of people don't know a thing about autism. Most people will base their facts on media information and we rely on dumb reporting from incompetant reporters. As if being autistic wasn't hard enough. 40 minutes alone with a reporter is all I ask. 30 minutes to educate them and 10 minutes to beat crap out of them for their badly reported incurrate, biased, insulting crap articles!

rossco

Actually my post should have read Bear with me I am dyslexic ands miss bits but notwithstanding it makes sense. It is a proven fact that a comon co-morbid condition of autism is depression but it is still a seperate diagnosis to autism. If you are so bitter and hateful of your own existence that you want to kill yourself you don't need to examine whether you were autistic or not or whether the degree of your autism impaired your psychological functioning. Examine the depression. The ame goes for other mental disorders.
If I go and kill someone. it is not because of a neurological impairment, it is a psychological impairment. Most people have no idea of the difference we have to educate them.

rossco

Yes I am very rational and analtical but in the thoes of chronic depression....well you know all those things they say about bring able to prove anything you believe stronly enough.
I am a hundred times stronger for making it through m depressive period. I don;t think this way again

rossco

RichardL Wrote:

raptureme200 Wrote:

rossco Wrote:
Sorry post doesn't make sense. It should read "Now if someone who IS NOT autistic commits suicide they will say it was due to their depression."
Bear with me I am autistic and miss bits sometimes.


Actually, I don't believe that they would be saying very much at all if they commited suicide, autistic or not.RolleyesShyRolleyesShy


That comment kinda made me laugh. Big Grin



rossco Wrote:
Actually my post should have read Bear with me I am dyslexic ands miss bits but notwithstanding it makes sense.


OK fellas if you have all stopped laughing at me and my dyslexia, does thisa now make a bit of sense or have I wasted my time in posting (or even given you guys another source of amusement).

rossco

Absolutely mate. Thanks. Well phrased. Three posts and I made errors on all.
I think you are responsible! Bit of payback? Hmmm...the force is weak in this one...LOL

rossco

What's more the minority group gets rightly indignant about this and the public say "The poofs are getting their knickers in a twist", "The *** are acting up", "The Jews are getting all preachy" and "The autistics are dribbling some brain-damaged nonsence".
Hard call all around. This worries me for my son. I live in a world that is still fairly ignorant as to what Autism is. Come 10 years from now, what is a 20 year old Autistic going to contend with after what we are seeing as a widespread media negative anti-autism push?

rossco

Yeah I know the feeling with going back over and over the posts. The worst thing is I am fairly intelligent and when I make a mistake I cringe. The one word I miss the most is "not". Can you see how that word missed can really change the meaning of the post? I also sometimes go back and edit and then find after I post the narrative has been completely stuffed.
I did Creative writing at Uni. What the hell was I thinking? LOL
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