05-03-2006, 04:08 PM
05-04-2006, 02:55 PM
Is there a legal source for DVDs?
I recently found a website that listed the DVD . . . but something about website struck me as being somehow questionable.
I would like to see the movie, but I do not want to support illegal copying.
I recently found a website that listed the DVD . . . but something about website struck me as being somehow questionable.
I would like to see the movie, but I do not want to support illegal copying.
05-05-2006, 09:28 PM
kalo Wrote:
Also, one night I was watching TV and David Letterman was on (he is a late night TV talk show host) he had this young man who was around 22 years old and he had AWESOME counting skills and other gifts.
When interviewed by David this man was jovial and was able to talk well and make good eye contact with David, and then he said to David Letterman that he was diagnosed with Asperger Syndrome. I almost jumped out of my seat and the first thing that came to my mind was "you don't look autistic or act it...
It made me realize that I was buying into the stereo type of having autism...
When interviewed by David this man was jovial and was able to talk well and make good eye contact with David, and then he said to David Letterman that he was diagnosed with Asperger Syndrome. I almost jumped out of my seat and the first thing that came to my mind was "you don't look autistic or act it...
It made me realize that I was buying into the stereo type of having autism...
I also saw that David Letterman interview. The young man he was interviewing is called Daniel Tammet. Daniel is the subject of a very interesting documentary, which is called "The Boy with the Incredible Brain". (the documentary was made by focus productions, for the UK's 'five' TV channel).
I find Daniel Tammet's voice very soothing (unlike most people's voices).
05-05-2006, 10:28 PM
kalo Wrote:
....what is worst is we have actors portraying autistic people.
Yeah it's like Al Jolson singing "Mammy" in blackface. This kind of thing would be considered offensive today so maybe things will change for us too.
05-05-2006, 10:37 PM
Amy Wrote:
theosoph Wrote:
kalo Wrote:
....what is worst is we have actors portraying autistic people.
Yeah it's like Al Jolson singing "Mammy" in blackface. This kind of thing would be considered offensive today so maybe things will change for us too.
I dont see it like that at all. Actors act as other people all the time, its their job.
Nevertheless a white actor with makeup on to make himself look black and acting in a stereotypically black manner is considered offensive today. This wasn't the case many years ago but attitudes have changed.
05-06-2006, 03:45 AM
I hope to see it on DVD but am bummed out that the people that made the website for it couldn't have been more respectful. The links page includes NAAR, CAN and ARI.
Marie
Marie
05-06-2006, 04:05 PM
Thanks Jerry for the explanation. It reminded me of an experience I had years ago at the Civil Rights Musuem in Memphis. It was a very moving exhibit that leaves everyone in stunned silence when you reach the end to see the balcony where Dr. King was shot. Across the road in plain view were banners denouncing the museum. I assumed it was racists and was upset. When I asked about it in the gift shop I was told that it was put up by poor residents that were displaced for the museum(some if not all of them were black). I guess I should learn not to jump to conclusions. To the credit of the webmaster those sites that I mentioned are listed at the end.
05-08-2006, 04:27 PM
Amy Wrote:
Yes. But isnt that because there was a mocking element, whereas with mozart and the whale it is respectful.
I've seen lots of movies that actually were mocking of autistic people. They are portrayed in a very stereotypical manner as geeks and just strange people. Don't you think the movie Rainman was offensive to autistic people? Maybe it was unintentional but the parallels are there. The producers of The Jazz Singer didn't make the movie to mock black people but that's the way we see it today.
05-08-2006, 06:51 PM
Amy Wrote:
But I dont think that applies to Mozart and the Whale though.
You are right. I should reserve judgement until I've seen the movie.
05-10-2006, 04:36 AM
Well, I'm embarassed to admit that if this thread hadn't taken this turn I wouldn't have figured out to scroll down and look for the "fansite". After viewing it, I have to admit it the links page is confusing. I think it would make more sense to break up the links under headings.
As far as AFF being viable, that is all up to us. It won't happen by magic nor by all this constant bickering that goes on in the autism rights community. Why is it again and again, neurotypicals can set up (cure)organizations that practically hit the ground running. What would it take to say "I would like to see a link for Autistic Pride Day"?
As far as AFF being viable, that is all up to us. It won't happen by magic nor by all this constant bickering that goes on in the autism rights community. Why is it again and again, neurotypicals can set up (cure)organizations that practically hit the ground running. What would it take to say "I would like to see a link for Autistic Pride Day"?
05-10-2006, 01:52 PM
Amy, I LIKE your and Gareth's sites. I would probably click on all the links if I had the time. Someone else who might want to see stuff related to the movie might want to know which links to look at.
The bickering mostly occurs elsewhere which is why I come here. I know am being vague but I don't want to add any fuel to the fire.
Jerry mentioned that if someone has a complaint they should take it to the studio. Maybe we could all e-mail and ask that they include APD?
The bickering mostly occurs elsewhere which is why I come here. I know am being vague but I don't want to add any fuel to the fire.
Jerry mentioned that if someone has a complaint they should take it to the studio. Maybe we could all e-mail and ask that they include APD?
05-10-2006, 03:51 PM
Bonnie Ventura Wrote:
Marie Wrote:
Why is it again and again, neurotypicals can set up (cure)organizations that practically hit the ground running.
Bonnie: That has nothing to do with superior organizational or social skills. It's because the curebies can easily get large amounts of funding by describing their groups as charities seeking to cure a tragic disease.
Jerry: I disagree, maybe "superior" is not the word but I don't think Bonnie: most of us are good at setting up such organizations. I have been on enough BODs of mostly NT orgs to know that my peers often don't know to function in such groups. Most of them either say nothing or won't shut up. Neither extreme works and I learned that the hard way.
It is difficult even in our peer-run groups.
There is a lot of passivity among us. I have had a lot of frustration with many support groups I set up because most people won't offer to help but they get passive-aggressive on me and other peer-facilitators.
Bonnie: Unfortunately, donations are a lot harder to come by for groups that promote acceptance, respect, and equal rights. Diversity doesn't get nearly as much attention as fundraising campaigns that claim to be saving poor suffering children whose brains were stolen by a horrible plague, etc.
Jerry: Don't forget that the curebie organizations play the game better than we do. They have tax-exempt status and other features that attract donations.
05-10-2006, 07:16 PM
Amy said:
I dont know exactly what is going on here, but since when did my fansite become a '"fansite", what is that all about?
Jerry: Amy, your site calls itself "The fansite for" my movie. Therefore, it is a fansite.
If I want to link to my own sites on my own site what has that got to do with anybody else?
Jerry: It is inappropriate for you to highjack interest in my movie to personal stuff of yours that is irrelevant.
Have people heard about the sites that spew racial hatred, have illegal porn, and give people viruses and spyware through pop ups? Why isnt anyone complaining about them?
Jerry: I do in the proper place. Your argument makes no sense.
Marie, where is this constant bickering? Where is the community bickering with itself?
Jerry: Amy, the problem is you don't want freedom. You want license.
I dont know exactly what is going on here, but since when did my fansite become a '"fansite", what is that all about?
Jerry: Amy, your site calls itself "The fansite for" my movie. Therefore, it is a fansite.
If I want to link to my own sites on my own site what has that got to do with anybody else?
Jerry: It is inappropriate for you to highjack interest in my movie to personal stuff of yours that is irrelevant.
Have people heard about the sites that spew racial hatred, have illegal porn, and give people viruses and spyware through pop ups? Why isnt anyone complaining about them?
Jerry: I do in the proper place. Your argument makes no sense.
Marie, where is this constant bickering? Where is the community bickering with itself?
Jerry: Amy, the problem is you don't want freedom. You want license.
05-11-2006, 03:27 PM
Amy Wrote:
The sites concern my special interests, and my husband and sons, we are all on the spectrum.
Jerry: You call the site "The fansite" for my movie. Then you clutter the links session with a lot of stuff that typical movie fans would care less about. Without me to inspire the movie, you would have to have another URL.
Jerry you are making a parody of your self by complaining about bickering the community and then making an argument over absolutely nothing.
If no-one was interested in your movie you would complain that 'the community is showing no support or interest' get over yourself already!
Jerry: All I asked you to do was categorize the links to make them less confusing. I am not the only person who asked you.
If you want to come back and make another whiney post, take a deep breath, and click the exit button, we don't need it.
Jerry: You call the site "The fansite" for my movie. Then you clutter the links session with a lot of stuff that typical movie fans would care less about. Without me to inspire the movie, you would have to have another URL.
Jerry you are making a parody of your self by complaining about bickering the community and then making an argument over absolutely nothing.
If no-one was interested in your movie you would complain that 'the community is showing no support or interest' get over yourself already!
Jerry: All I asked you to do was categorize the links to make them less confusing. I am not the only person who asked you.
If you want to come back and make another whiney post, take a deep breath, and click the exit button, we don't need it.
Jerry: I really don't need your patronizing, insulting attitude so I will just bail out of here if you tell me how. Goodbye.
Jerry Newport aka The Whale
05-11-2006, 03:33 PM
Bonnie Ventura Wrote:
jerrynewport Wrote:
[quote=jerrynewport]the curebie organizations play the game better than we do. They have tax-exempt status and other features that attract donations.
That's a good point, Jerry. In the US (and probably other countries too), political groups aren't even eligible for tax-exempt status.
Jerry: However, lots of tax-exempt groups in the USA do tons of advocacy and lobbying. ASA, CAN, Autism Speaks etc all are tax-exempt.
So our groups would have to be described as educational groups and would have to be careful not to get too political, whereas the curebies can claim to be health charities, even though they are promoting eugenics.
Jerry: I don't see where our groups would be any more restricted than our opposition as long as we follow the same rules that regulate them. The main obstacle we have is internal, a lack of intitiative and a widely held belief among us that we can't get anything done.
This is my last post to AFF so thanks for helping me make it a good one.
Jerry Newport aka The Whale