Aspies For Freedom

0_0 wow. But what would a custom-made aspergia look like? The infinity symbol?

I don't get what such a principle would be. What would be better than a place where those on the spectrum could gather and not worry about normal social problems? Where they could discuss, debate, and have a good time without normal difficulties?

Y'know, for all the talk about how easy aspies are to get along with, I still find it very hard to believe.  It's common knowledge that we're bad at social stuff.  I certainly am.  If I met someone like me, I'd want to punch him.

It seems feasible, but the primary problem I see is location. For any that you could pick, it would still be too far for many, if only due to cost and time, even as a holiday target.

And I dislike travelling in general, as it breaks my routine and requires me to go into new and unknown situations, which is an added problem. But maybe that is just me.

But building our very own island is certainly an interesting idea, even if it will remain just an idea. I wonder if with several thermonuclear charges carefully placed on Atlantic floor  you could (re)create Atlantis? Now that would be a good place for Aspergia.

Maybe the principle of the group against building any homeland/holiday center would be worry about further isolation? As in, it would represent a break away from mainstream humanity. I can see how some would not like that, although personally I think it does not make much sense.

Of course. But there are many times less aspies than nt, and the problem becomes whether it would please enough, numerically, not only proportionally, to be viable.

Please note, I was only making a hypothesis about principles of those opposed to the homeislan idea, not saying it myself, and I don't even know if I am close to their real motivation, which are likely diverse anyway.

What I meant, is that it would increase isolation from the rest of the humanity. The island would represent a division between us, aspies, and them, nt. Which is strong already, and some may fear that increasing this mentality may not be good.

I agree. But it is hard to escape... Living among nts means that being an aspie becomes a primary identification trait, and one forgets that aspies within ourselves are as different as all humans.

That human-made island thingy is going to look interesting in seventy years or so- it'll be underwater and make a nice reef for the fishies to live.  Do they have any plans to raise the surface up as the sea levels rise?
Alison

That's why I favor either Antarctica or a floating configuration.  With windows in the bottom

Perhaps once we have the technology, we should build Aspergia on the moon. Perfect place for a new country without war, hard to infulence, perfect place to launch tactical bombardment...what?

I still like the idea of Antarctica, (really!) but I don't know if it's even possible to buy land there.  We'd have to build underground, of course, and grow food in hydroponic gardens, but then most of us are hyper-sensitive to sunlight anyway, so that wouldn't be a problem.  We could use a combination of geothermal, wind generation and probably some form of hydroelectrical generation for power. Or during the summer, just hook up the solar generators - 24 hour a day sunshine for six months! There are supposed to be at current stats around 20 million people with Aspergers in the population; if everyone kicks in 10-100 dollars, we could do it!
Alison

If we set up sovereignty, we would of course make our own restrictions on what is to be done with waste.  Of course, by the time any of this could happen, our technology, including that regarding recycling would be a lot more advanced.  I'd look for advances in general material efficiency, decreased time of processing, perhaps by biological means.  As a matter of fact, even today, it's not impossible to cycle products through, provided you make them out of the right materials; so another idea would be finding a way to apply those materials to areas that are currently impossible.  

As Alison said, we'll combat the cold by building underground.  We will also wear very large coats.  Hydroponics sounds liek a good idea, I suppose it is more efficient than growing things in dirt, no?  Never really looked into it.  If it's not, we can clear an area of dirt, install grow-lights and diversion channels for icemelt.  Perhaps we can engineer some really hard-core cold-hardiness into corn, for instance, or any number of other things.  Also, during the summer I think it would be possible to save energy by replacing the growlights with fiber-optic light collectors, and simply beam it in.  

As for energy, biodiesel would definitely occupy a significant area as well.

Precendents such as gated communities and techno– and homo–villages abound.  Perfectly do-able.

Meh, I'm a science-fiction/fantasy writer when I'm not wiping kiddies noses and bottoms!  I need to escape into fantasy occasionally in those sort of circumstances.
:smile: Alison

Only that conditions are very extreme. Pipes would break open frequently due to the very coldness of the place. I've read about towns in Alaska that have serious problems with pipes and with getting enough water to houses.

I think the houses would probably have to be Igloos or similar.

There must be somewhere that is not so cold but not really boiling hot either. I've read about people buying small uninhabited Islands but it's usually just been a single person or a small family who have done it and it is a lot of very hard work. There has to be some way to keep the situation sustainable as generally it is quite expensive to bring in supplies.