Aspies For Freedom

And what about the girls who want to become porn stars? Prostitution now is as you say it is, but if you look at the way our society deigns relationships, you'd realize that it's pretty fucked up. The NT way of mating involves strict heterosexual monogamy, which as we've seen ends in a high divorce rate and lots of neurosis. I'm not saying marriage has no functional value, I'm just saying the way we do it has no functional value. Read some heinlein books and open your eyes. I suggest (strongly) "Time Enough for Love" and "To Sail Beyond the Sunset".

He has some good ideas, but you pretty much restated my point. However, strict heterosexual monogamy is pretty much what NTs like to idolize. Whether or not hypocritical behavior is their norm is beside the point. My point was that they try to force it on eachother and follow their ideal until they become neurotic and end up unfaithful and divorced. If they wouldn't enforce such nonsense standards on themselves in the first place, they might not end up so neurotic. The only pragmatic purpose of marriage (besides solidifying jealousy into a contract of law) is to provide a contract under which children can be raised. Who's to say that two parents is the optimal number for that anyway? Especially when it ends up one parent far too often. Four or six parents would be much better since the responsibility would be spread out over a group, and what if one child has special needs (kinda like us)? If you have two NT parents trying to do that, it's no wonder they go nuts. Keep this one thing in mind though: it's only being unfaithful if your partner doesn't agree to it.

When did I profess that? I don't remember doing so at any point.. I'm a straight up horny bastard =\.

Yeah, and for a lot of those either don't have divorce or else it isn't a big deal. The main problem is that cultures like that are mostly African. They know nothing of VD or how aids is spread or even how it works. That makes things less than optimal, and the people who go to africa to 'help' them refuse to tell them why or how they're getting aids.

I agree that the state has no obligation to ensure the happiness of individuals, however the current state in America seems to have an agenda that includes banning certain things that many people enjoy but doesn't hurt others. If your happiness involves hurting someone else, the state can say no, however... Marijuana is no more harmful than alcohol and cigarettes, yet is illegal in most countries. Prostitution is currently a non-legal business, so prostitutes get none of the benefits of any other job and are given no means of safety from disease or anything else, can't unionize, and are at the mercy of their pimps, who are practically above the law as a boss.

I don't believe the state has ANY right to regulate those sorts of things. There is NO logical reason for doing so. Sure, if they have health concerns, they can say no to drugs which have harmful effects that go beyond the accepted norm (ie alcohol) and tell companies that they can't put poisons in their food because it's cheaper or manufacture things in an unsanitary way, or manufacture things in a way which is particularly unsafe for employees. No problem, those are GOOD ideas. Telling a dirt poor single mother that she has to work at McDonalds or has to work the streets in fear of disease or beating or death... no. There's not a single good reason why prostitution shouldn't be a business supported and regulated like any other.

I believe in evolution, but we're much closer to mutated orangutans than we are to mutated monkeys or apes.

I wasn't suggesting that it really should be subsidied, I was just saying that it makes more sense than paying idiot farmers (who, by the way, are extremely inefficient already) to... grow less food? We have poor people who are starving and they have the balls to PAY farmers to produce less? That's almost as ballsy as the government cheese they make with subsidized milk.

While "asperger syndrome" is just a diagnostic label; I DO have to wonder about the NT women here and elsewhere who have Aspie bf's/husbands have some aspergian traits themselves. Or maybe they are just very introverted and so they arent concerned with social skills and/or the social status of their man. People tend to be attracted to other people who are similar to themselves; and it doesnt seem too likely that an extroverted, "fun-loving", socially adept woman would not be bothered by a man who is socially inept-but then again for every rule there's always an exception.I personally have Never attracted women like that; quite the opposite.

I am situated somewhere between extroversion and introversion. But the people I attract are always EXTREMELY introverted.  Not only that, they also tend to be artistic and unconventional.MIGHT I ADD: the maternal thing REALLY doesnt work for me! Women who have that caretaker instinct usually feel drained by me, and by other men with problems. IME, I get along best with those who can relate to me emotionally and who have had similar life experiences.

A better argument for the decriminalisation / legalisation of prostitution is for the ability to monitor the health and well being of prostitutes.

And -- excuse me? -- WHAT EXACTLY is it that women apparently cannot "grasp" about sexual needs???!!!! >

I hate to say it but it seems that we arent too good with the ladies, the NTs at least, we just dont have the skills needed to bond & to satisfy their social needs.  its like trying to lift something with no arms, we can want to do it & try our hardest, but it just wont happen.  

It sucks I know, but thats life as an aspie

oh - how mean of you wife - do you feel cheated??

I read you post quickduck - I didn't notice that you wrote cane instead of can - maybe people mightn't notice that I wrote you instead your. I really need an edit function. I preview my posts - but I still don't see my mistakes until I post.

oh - I did it again, frustrating.

Well I can't because I'm a straight girl. =]

I am spending Valentine's day comfortably alone. Ah, the joy of being asexual...

Good luck to the rest of you, though; I hope you find the people you're looking for.