Aspies For Freedom

I am grateful for what you said Opal.  Minus the temper, I resemble your husband.  But before I was a Christian I did lash out quite a bit.  Now I really feel more sad than angry.

From http://www.wrongplanet.net/modules.php?n...oovyDruid, by Groovy Druid

"Because of the two looks they have shared, Burt knows that she is expecting him to small talk with her. It’s very important. Why? Because romantic men are safe, and they are able to communicate well. Light small talk allows Charlotte to quell her common womanly fear that the man she’s with is among the serial murderers, rapists, abusers, and stalkers the media warn her of every day. Burt also shows Charlotte that he is a responsive and good communicator, the number-one quality women dream about in a man."

Now, that didn't work for Laci Pedersen, Terry Schaivo, or Nicole Brown Simpson, did it?

Laugh a little: Terry Schaivo's husband: first he turned her on, then he turned her off.
(I think she had more moral scruples than he did at about that moment.)

I think I have the answer to my question.  Rape is always wrong, always a power trip, always a monster involved.

An Aspergian of good character and good heart, regardless of how alienated, will not go to that level unless he chooses to.  Regardless of how misunderstood he might be, and regardless of how misunderstanding he is of the misunderstanding of him (i.e., if he wonders if other people think he is a monster).

I guess you knew this idea would come out sooner or later, would Aspergians have a class action case against writers who insinuate that we don't want relationships or can't make them fly, for defamation?

I am starting to think we need an anti-defamation league of our own.

I would call this the Phantom of the Opera Scenario

1.  Teenage (or older) male feels treated like a monster
2.  Danger point!  He decides to act like one.  Under what circumstances does this happen, and not happen?.  Perhaps it is the others in his life that dissuade him from going that way, parents, teachers, other adult figures in clergy or psychotherapy, etc.
3.  It certainly does get the attention of the girl and everyone else, police, the courts, the correctional system.

Linkin Part, Feint
I can't feel the way I did before
don't turn your back on me, I won't be ignored

4.  POD, Youth of the nation: is the need for attention this an excuse?

gun blasts,
it happened so fast,
I didn't notice it, was some guy in the class,

maybe this kid was reaching out for love,
or maybe for a moment he forgot who he was,
or maybe this kid just wanted to be heard

5.  Does the need to be heard go as far as suicide?

it's kind of hard when you ain't got no friends
He put his life to an end, they'll remember him then

[b]Still, this is unacceptable behavior in any society[b]
1.  We know about power as an reason for rape
2.  Loneliness does not come to mind, but if research can back it up it would be intriguing.

SoulSick,

I briefly checked the Internet for social rejection as a criminal motive.  It is certainly there for the school shootings.  I can't find it for sexual assault.

As a non-practicing sociologist (Master's, but I make my living with computers because employers I interviewed with could not or would not deal with us, presumably) I could head off to the nearest campus library and proceed to the Sociological Abstracts, or maybe even ask my old adviser in college, who taught me criminology and juvenile delinquency, but help me out, what research are you referencing?

SoulSick, I hear you.  (Is that why your moniker is SoulSick?)  Even if she really is a jerk, (arrogant, not simply ignorant) and have bad attitudes toward guys with Asperger, she has the freedom to be one in ways Cho did not when he shot up Virginia Tech.  Her only punishment?  The possibility that she could end up with another Ted Bundy because she was looking at the self he was showing off, and did not bother to watch us for a while and make a careful judgment about our character.  Or the possibility she gets hitched to some cave man named Adolf or Slobodan.

My apology to all the Adolfs and Slobodans of the world who aren't heads of state into ethnic cleansing.

I think I wanted to say, SoulSick, that it really is wrong to dismiss another human being prejudiciously when that person is actually of good character, intelligence, personality, and humor and so on.  The fact that we cannot do a damn thing about it except our best attempt at public awareness does not make prejudice right.  Certainly not when there is a job involved.  Not even if it is only a matter of love.

SoulSick, there is one added dimension that makes this worse.  If your best soul (emotionally, socially) isn't good enough for a woman, how can you not take that personally?

Sorry for the train of thought, it is about time for the gates to open and let the traffic through.

Acting out like a monster would not make anyone happy.  Happy people don't go around committing violent crime, although committing a violent crime does get attention, it is not worth the price one would pay.

Another thing.  There is a difference between being mistaken for a monster and becoming one.

Their prejudices can't make you a monster.
Alienating you can't make you a monster.
That is a choice left to the individual, to stay human or become a monster.

Humans are frequently capable of prejudice in ways animals are not.  It seems my cat picked me almost on instinct.  While the other cats at the rescue agency were nuzzling and biting me for attention, she went in the cat carrier, it was open.  If only a woman would do that.  OK, maybe the right one will when she crosses my path.

I didn't know I was a fascist, or thought in accordance with fascism, until Max told me.  

What!!!??

I actually think I am left of center, Christian left.  I do not like Christian politics of today.  But as socialists will not win,  I am a Democrat.

Skotohelion, that is a low blow to equate homsexuality with pedophilia.

It is every bit as much a low blow as when the nice people of Inwood, WV told their kids to stay away from my brother, not because he is gay, but because he has difficulty attracting women (as I do), and is presumably gay for that reason, and presumably a threat to their kids.  

Keep it above the belt.  

I think if the state of California trusts Max, I can, can't you?

Looking weak?  Someone used to say it is more mature to walk away from a fight.  Could have been Batman or Superman, one of those cartoons, (just kidding) but anyway, good advice.  I think one of the super heroes also said if you look for enemies you will find only enemies.