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goingnorthwest Wrote:


Check out that awesome pre-summer farmer's tan, rofl!


Who's the chick?

stubbsk Wrote:


With my knowledge of Aspies looking younger (sometimes much younger) than their chronological age, I am not going to take an NT guess and guess below, I am going to take an accurate guess that takes the AS tendency for youthfulness into account:

Are you 27?

erkolos Wrote:
Boomer! Ten years less than that!


Maybe the 27 was egregious.  I guess I'll change it to 25.

erkolos Wrote:
Boomer! Ten years less than that!


Maybe the 27 was egregious.  I guess I'll change it to 25.

erkolos Wrote:
He's already said he was seventeen in another post. (I searched)


I see.

When I was 21 I had one particularly annoying lass convinced that I was 15.

That's usually how the trend goes with me, except in the last couple years people have occasionally guessed correctly.

musicalcat Wrote:
i'm wondering about a few things:
i found my pic on this place:

http://images.nonexiste.net/thumb/irc/49611

i see that other pics posted on this forum has been uploaded there as well. look if you click to forward or go backwards on that page.

i wonder who uploaded those pics there, and why.
also, why a "lol" at my pic? do i look funny?


No need for a lol at your pic, at all.

Anyhow I went to that site and it is creepy.  I hit the the fast forward button to go to the last images and it's not a wholesome place, i'll tell you that much.

jedi Wrote:
hm some handsome new people in here eh Big Grinlooks above and to the page before :p

and this are more recent ones , aswell taken on webcam .


You ought to see me, I am sure you would be impressed.  Wink

Are you German; do you live in Germany?

Ceri Chaos Wrote:
Hmmmmm, that didn't work quite the way I planned. Oh well.....


The links don't work... Rolleyes

Noetic Wrote:

Ceri Chaos Wrote:
Well this thread got pretty random. Is reflux related to AS? I have really bad reflux and digestive troubles and I keep reading I should give up milk and wheat because AS people can't process them properly.
I can't imagine living without dairy and wheat foods, so I think I'm gonna stick with the reflux....


Not related as such but various stomach and intestinal stuff is associated with autism in general, in many people.


I don't have any problems with "wheat foods," but I have always had some rather pronounced constipation.  I have always needed a pretty decent amount of fiber in my diet, for that reason.

The other thing I had which "has been said" to be associated with autistic spectrum disorders was asthma, I had that pretty badly as a kid, but when I developed a bit more stamina in my teenage years it seemed to disappear.  I am quite thankful, as sports have been good for me.

I've played basketball at a local park the last two summers.. don't tell me that makes me NT though, as I had to be 23 years old before I could finally "get the courage up" to play with strangers... and even then I prefer to have my "safe person" around, which is my friend who introduced me to team ball.. without him I feel "out of place."

Noetic Wrote:

Batman55 Wrote:
But did you read my comments about the unusual manner in which they follow their "thrifty" rules, esp. seeing as it seems to be inflexible (inflexible mannerisms, routines, are part of the spectrum AFAIK).

I can't really tell the difference between what you described and plain old habits people grow up with. That's not to say it isn't inflexible (although it is not a "mannerism" in any way shape or form) etc. I just don't see how what you described is in any way different to habits a person tends to acquire over time.

My comment was however related to what you said about how growing up in a certain era or with parents who grew up in this era was likely to result in such thriftyness.


Inflexible habits, or repetitive patterns of behavior, is the way I should have described it.

I still don't know anyone besides my uncle who saves the wrapping paper from Christmas presents and reuses it (and feels bad if it goes to waste, etc.) and I still don't know anyone besides my uncle who saves empty pastry boxes and offers them to people, as if they were interested in such things.

I think my uncle's "great interest" is in saving money, as one with AS is likely to have a great interest which goes to the exclusion of other things, it is true in his case as he seems to treasure finding a decent priced can of soup more than activities which would expand his life experience.  He has an unusual attachment to objects.

Noetic Wrote:
I agree that he sounsd obsessed with saving money, but the attachment to objects seems limited to the pastry boxes. I don't see how saving money has anything to do with attachment to objects unless he saves the money physically.


Well, despite having no social anxiety (he would have to be an Aspie with low self-awareness, if he is AS as I suspect), he has a restricted social life and very few close friends except for people in extended family.  I believe he only has one friend who is not connected to family, in some way.  Although he is quite chatty, and can talk to anyone.

The attachment to objects?  Well he seems to enjoy the mundane (a decent priced can of soup, a fresh loaf of bread from a nearby Deli) almost as much as the company of people.  These mundane things are like a hobby for him.  I imagine it is this ability of his (enjoying the mundane) that allows him to live alone.  Indeed, he has never had a longterm partner and has never married.  He certainly talks about mundane objects as if they were special.  It seems like he has this "great interest" of saving money in place of things that most NTs would find important (finding a partner or getting a genuine hobby, of which he has none.)

He does the same things all the time, says the same things all the time, has absolutely no idea that someone might not be interested in what he has to say (he'll talk for 5 minutes straight on a particular thing that is interesting to him).  He gives you tons of needless details (he can remember what kind of soup was served at a charity dinner that happened 30 years ago, etc, and tells you about it) and has limited facial expression, it seems he only has a neutral face and a happy face, nothing in between.  He has a monotonous voice that seems robotic.  If you mention a certain "buzz word," for example, new construction work in his town, he'll repeat the same things he said to you before on the topic, as if he was reading a prepared list.

I could go on and on about him.  You might say "a lot of people are like that" well he is 75 years old now, at this point it will be tough to separate Aspie mannerisms from eccentric/Quirky NT mannerisms.  I believe he is AS, for I have postulated the strongest AS comes from my mother's side, with a milder form of it on my father's side.

Noetic Wrote:
I still don't know anyone besides my uncle who saves the wrapping paper from Christmas presents and reuses it (and feels bad if it goes to waste, etc.)

This isn't that unusual in Switzerland, and even in Europe it is not unheard of at least in people over 40 or so. At least not in my extended family. What's even more common is people recycling whole persents (still wrapped) although I suspect that happens everywhere.
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Well, I say it's an attachment to objects because in his case, he seems to genuinely "enjoy" saving certain things, and he seems to have this "interest" in place of things most people would find a lot more important.

I can give you an example to illustrate what I'm trying to say.  For instance you may have an Aspie math genius who prefers to work on his own mathematical equations than work on expanding his social life; indeed you might then say "he enjoys the company of numbers" the same as, or more than, the company of people.

I think my uncle is an example of one who enjoys the company of objects, that is his "extra" interest in mundane things, which is said to be common among Aspies.

ichtms Wrote:
One subject that I worked with in my prose was the feeling of having been treated as a piece of furniture while growing up. The soul of an object exists only in your mind - It doesn't have a mind of its own - And can therefore not disappoint you in any way -


This might explain why some Aspies seem more drawn to objects than to people, we don't know how to cope with disappointment... people are an unpredictable abstract area, and those NTs with more advanced social skills are often manipulative in subtle ways that Aspies can't pinpoint as easily as most others can.

I seem to "expect" that people should accept me or not make sarcastic jokes about my shortcomings, well these expectations of mine aren't always correct, and that bothers me intensely.

I don't know why thinly veiled insults pass as "mere sarcastic humor" in the NT world, to me it hurts, and does not count as mere sarcasm.  To me it counts as evidence that the sarcastic person enjoys aggravating people with sensitivity.

No wonder "objects" such as this computer I am using, are my best  friends.  I can depend on them.  I know what is going to happen, and I can control it.

Noetic Wrote:
I feel a bit guilty for bringing this off topic, so: (Me sleeping through the last Rocky film, with cat on top of me)


Nice picture, but I can't really see your face at all in that.

tsw Wrote:

Noetic Wrote:

tsw Wrote:
Not excatly on topic for a "post your pic" thread, but B.S. johnson told me it was OK to post her pic for her.


She looks a *lot* like my friend in Switzerland who's half-Egyptian, she's a Leo too, same birthday as me (but a year younger).


She's half greek, half american english descent mutt.  Something about Leo's... (even though I consider astrology to be complete bunk)


What's that "something" about Leos?

I am technically a Leo, but I'm sorta on the dividing line, so I'm not sure...

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