Aspies For Freedom

I can say with an utmost certain that Aspergia cannot exist, nor should it exist. It is not that the idea does not intrigue me. It is certainly a concept of merit. However it forgets the key ingrediant for a nationstate. That is, a nation. There is no Aspergian culture nation, and therefor cannot be an effective Aspergian Nationstate. There is no Aspergian Language, no Aspergian Cooking, nor Aspergian Folktales, nor Aspergian music. There is no unified Aspergian history nor a tradition of government. All of these things are necessary for a functioning state.
Look at Britain's former colonies. Which of these have been the most successful? Which of these the least? The most successful have been in south/southeast asia. India is nearing Superpower status, Singapore and Malaysia are thriving economies. Africa is the least successful, it is overrun by strife, famine and anarchy. The most succesful regions are in the north such as Egypt. What is the key factor, that allowed some post-colonial states like Korea to take off quickly, while some like the congo to crumble into despair?
Nation. Few consider national Identity to be a key factor in the economic and political growth of a nation, but it is. Its a recognizable pattern. Korea has always been Korea and it always will be. Because of this the people share national heritage, the most powerful and indestructive of human bonds. Because of this, people were able to pull together as a country and quickly turn Korea into one of the worlds leading economies.
Now look at Africa. If you look at a map of Africa from 1936, you will realise it is strikingly similar to the map today. For all of its constant warring, Africa still has the borders drawn up by the great powers when they divided up the continent. Even before then, Africa lacked the concept of Nation (Europe lacked it until the end of feudalism). Only in North Africa, did concepts of National identity form, such as in Egypt. Because of this, their was no cohesive unity in any of the African States, especially the subsahara. It was not lack of material virtues that hindered Africa. It has a vast population, it has bountiful natural resources, it has broad swaths of land to utilize, Korea lacked all these things. However Africa never capatilized on this because they were not truley a nation. Their states rarely shared a common language other then that imposed on them by their colonial oppressors. Nor were their borders drawn along any real ethnic boundary.
Aspergia would be doomed to the same course of political infighting, strife, and ultimate collapse, if the state were ever created. Without a nation or culture to build around, the state is a hollow, empty structure, and can only collapse in on its self.

I think that the plan of an AS nation will remain just that; a plan. It would never get off the ground. However, I think making aspie communites in certin areas would be posible.

There is no Aspergian culture nation, and therefor cannot be an effective Aspergian Nationstate. There is no Aspergian Language, no Aspergian Cooking, nor Aspergian Folktales, nor Aspergian music. There is no unified Aspergian history nor a tradition of government. All of these things are necessary for a functioning state.

We have a culture, and a history, everything begins somewhere.

http://www.autisticculture.com

It could be argued that the most successful former british colony is the United States.

True, it all starts somewhere.

Actually looking at Australia's origins as the country we know it today (not in terms of aboriginal people who of course had the country for 1000's of years beforehand) people were put there who were not wanted in the UK, and they survived and prospered.

Replace with "gay" or GLBT.  There is a part of town that is mostly catering to gays.  But gays are found everywhere and not forced to live there in gay town.  They demanded that they were to be accepted everywhere.  They just go to gay town to find others like them???  Maybe they feel more comfortable expressing themselves and their relationships in gay town.

Do we have a need to have own place for expression?  Does it have to be a physical place or a cyber place or just a safe place to live?  Why can we not demand to live with everyone else without facing bullying?

Why can we not demand to live with everyone else without facing bullying?

We can demand it, but we dont get it.

We can spend the rest of our lives demanding, but you will never get total acceptance from 100% of people.

You only need one bully to make your life a misery.
This is why minorities have always traditionally made their own real life communities.

This is because a new culture was allowed to develope under british rule. Perhaps this shows the best way to found an Aspergia would be initially as a territory of another country.

Well there is a successful village of people with various neurodiversities in Yorkshire.

I would hesitate to use such simplistic rules of thumb as that to predict human behaviour.

In regards to Africa I think also you are overlooking the influence of 1st World countries like the US. I do believe that they have  secretly encouraged the strife in Africa to prevent the possiblity of a unified African State. Since such a state would become a very powerfull (and likely pissed off) new player in the game of global power.  I am sure they are using these tatics in the middle-east as well.

As for a aspie National Identity, Well I think sometimes I value my Identity as an aspie more than my identity as a Canadian.  I feel a very strong bond the Autistic culture. I think of them as my people.

I think that is the main thing we are looking for, a Identity, And trying to get the wider culture to accept and respect that idenity rather than the identity that it imposed on us. that is the identity as being worthless people and being a "burden to society".

As for The Aspie nation idea. I agree that it is cannot happen. But for a more obvious reason. There is nowhere it could exist. If the earth was a rock concert it would be sold out. There is simply no places on the planet that can support 5-10 million people that isn't already occupied. In another thread someone was talking about living Antartica using Techology. Well, I dunno about you, But i am not about to live in a place where my very life is dependant  on failible technology. And I doubt current tech is not quite up to the task of supporting a civilizations on antartcia. Now under the ice it may be possible(I bet no one thought of that). still it's not very likely.

I am straying from my point. My point is that aspergia is a lovely fantasy but that all it is, a fantasy. Unless the world changes in some drastic way(IE Fall of civilization), that's all it will probably ever be. We can't let it distract us from dealing with the problems at hand.

I don't think that British rule had much impact on Australia. It was too far to be directly governed, so, much like the Untied States, it was governed more by the people living there.

Not every country has a culture, nor does it need one. Some of the stronger cultures, like Cambodia, fall easily. Other weak or developing cultures, like at the beginning of the US, have grown. And being a Floridian, I can't help but think about the Conch Shell Republic when thinking about all of this.

To pull an obscure example from the hat, I will use Seychelles. The country in(or technically in) Africa will the highest average income, yet with no natural resources and absolutely no people there before being settled by the British(or French. I forget which). They're doing pretty well for themselves.

I can imagine perhaps with that analogy certain cities where you may eventually find a larger population or culture of aspies/auties (right now superficially silllion valley... i guess..), where there is recognition etc. however at the same time, isn't the aspies/auties preferences usually solitary? or, while there is a huge online presence and community, aspies/auties often do not prefer to meet people face to face. therefore i honestly do not see a physical culture as such happening anytime soon.
Aspergia, really, is right here, online.

isn't the aspies/auties preferences usually solitary?

Well we all live in society now, so if that was transferred to a place that happened to have a higher ratio of autistics than NTs, what would really be the difference? People would still be solitary in the same way, but when they needed to go to the store there would be an aspie shopkeeper instead of an NT one.