Aspies For Freedom

She a bit of a megalomaniac then?  

Now, Sci Fi Conventions, the archetypical breading ground for nerds, have been taken over by the worst most sociopathic relational bullies quicker than you can blink!

What could an Aspie homeland or hometown give to the world?
Answer: A cultue of candor, or else nothing.

I personally would like it if we became the world's leader in environmental inovation, with the lowest emisons, ect. of any country.

yeah, that would be nice...

I think the best idea would be to allow for individual inititive rather than central planning.  

Central economy forces bureacracy and squashes too many ideas before they ever reach the funnel.

If we build it within an poor country, we'd have access to cheap labor, and we'd help to develop the area in the process.

If we can get a few businesses going we might ask the owners to contribute to a fund, which would lend money at low interest to other enterprise ideas, both by us, and by the locals (since their businesses would strengthen our economy).

Lolz "Pitfalls of the Future" would make an excellent name for say, an Indie or alternative band...maybe some aspies could even set up a band with such a name

Seriously, we must do all in our power to prevent a Lord of The Flies scenario from ever happening if an Aspie homeland is developed.

Sounds too much like Marsh Land (originally Marshland), which (I originally placed in where we were living) really culturally belongs in West-Central Europe, as my conversations with Wondering1 have led me to believe.

Esp. Dad secular emphasis on freedom from religion, the protection of various minorities (homosexuals) from religion, with history to back his case up.  I reckon even the military would take an oath to defend the Republic from religion specifically as a possible internal enemy, and plenty of history lessons about Christianity.  (I reckon the Christians in the Army, Air Force, etc. might not like this much.)

Archetype, the link in your sig is not working.  

I'm not sure I agree with your views that NT's are more "self-serving" and that AS are not "self-serving".  People in general are self serving.  However, I do see cases where people with more "social skills" get into positions where there is more possibility for "self-serving".  

I agree completely that a community of AS will be an amazing thing.

Archtype, if I could direct your attention here....

if you want to contribute, pick a topic; funding, location, purchasing research, climate and various other things are still open.

Archetype,

I reviewed the WP message boards, and I was unable to find this project that are mentioning.  Could you please provide a link?

Archetype,

I find the ideas explored on the linked thread interesting.  While it is not the way that I myself would set up a community, I think that Inventor's concept is worth exploring.  Do you think that Inventor would be interested in posting on AFF?  While a large portion of our membership is not US -based, some of us are in the US (such as myself).  

I have bookmarked the WP thread for future reference.

An example to other nations on how to treat Aspies.

For it to work.... it would have to attract enough employment for all the people....  and would have to support enough taxation on top of that to care for those who could not work, even with our tolerance in the workplace.  

It might need some sort of police or military just in case it gets wealthy, at least if it has neighbors like Saddam Hussein.  There are not many control freaks in the world, but everyone can appreciate plunder as a good alternative to hard work, taxes, or what not.  The Roman Empire grew for a long time thanks to plunder, until the Empire ran out of weak countries to knock over.  The Persians were not knockovers.  And then the Romans overlooked the land trying to gain wealth agriculturally (one of those peak oil writers wrote that it took a thousand years for the soil to recover- entropy) and the big estates said screw you to the central government and became self supporting feudal kingdoms.

I think that is why we really need the military, not so much for freedom, but for the fantastic wealth we can't imagine up at the very top of the American economic-political system that so much of the world would plunder if they had the chance.  Or maybe if the planet gets to the point where we can only feed a billion people and they are plundering food, not wealth, the military is here to guarantee that we and our allies are the billion who are left alive, and God knows they have the conventional weapons (by themselves, no nukes) to kill all but the billion.

Vietnam was a killing spree without the use of nuclear weapons.  If you read A Bright Shining Lie by Neil Sheehan, some military leaders like Brute Krulak actually crunched numbers and estimated that sheer depopulation and kill ratios would bring U.S. victory in Vietnam, and it was too much for Lyndon B Johnson, who congratulated Krulak and showed him the door.

We're going to need friendly NTs to make it, homeland or not.  We're going to have to resign ourselves to the idea of making friends with NTs when they are trustworthy.



A postscript on Krulak.  Sorry for digressing..... But if we had a homeland, don't get too wealthy, or you attract plunderers..... or maybe criminals inside the community
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_H._Krulak

Vietnam War
For the next four years, Krulak was responsible for all Fleet Marine Force units in the Pacific, including some 54 trips to the Vietnam theater. At the beginning of the War, Krulak put forward the "Spreading Inkblot Theory." This promoted a spreading inkblot of small units actions to pacify South Vietnam village by village. When large enemy units were encountered then General Westmoreland's overwhelming firepower should be employed. He also called for intensive bombing of North Vietnam and mining of Haiphong Harbor. Krulak's plans were eventually rejected as Westmoreland favored hammering the enemy into submission through superior firepower and the Johnson administration feared relentless bombing of the North would provoke Soviet and Chinese intervention.

LtGen Krulak retired on June 1, 1968, receiving a Distinguished Service Medal for his performance during that period.