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Very odd isn't it.
People who drive too fast -  they would not feel anymore guilty running down a child with autism or an old lady who could not jump out of the way fast enough.  

If the tag in the shirt causes a tantrum why doesn't she cut it out.  They could put up a fence and a gate around their yard.  Trying to open the latch on the gate would slow the kid down enough.  

I wonder if "autistic child" sign would really mean anything to most people?  There are already "chidren at play" or "school crossing" signs that people ignore.  Might it be that she is just seeking attention for her children being autistic?
Whenever we have looked for a home to buy or rent we have only considered places that have fully enclosed and lockable back yards, because of the kids, but I know some families let their toddlers in nappies play in the street unsupervised, which means there is nothing but the tot's own good sense keeping it out of danger, and the child is an easy target for any abductor.

I think some parents take advantage of the popular idea that "it takes a village to raise a child", and they live as though raising their own kids is everyone's responsibility except their own.

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If the tag in the shirt causes a tantrum why doesn't she cut it out.


Exactly what I thought. When I was going through our collection of old baby clothes I noticed that the tags had been cut off most of them, by me in the past or other family members.

M Wrote:
People who drive too fast -  they would not feel anymore guilty running down a child with autism or an old lady who could not jump out of the way fast enough.  

If the tag in the shirt causes a tantrum why doesn't she cut it out.  They could put up a fence and a gate around their yard.  Trying to open the latch on the gate would slow the kid down enough.  

I wonder if "autistic child" sign would really mean anything to most people?  There are already "chidren at play" or "school crossing" signs that people ignore.  Might it be that she is just seeking attention for her children being autistic?


It sounds like she's trying to get attention for having autistic children, that sign will create a stigma for them, especially when they're bullied in school. I've noticed that NT children are just as likely to run into the street without looking, especially if they're going after a ball. A fence with a latched gate is the better solution, plus the children won't have the stigma of being labeled by that sign.

As for the tag thing, I thought the same thing. I've been cutting the tags out of my shirts for years as I find them irritating as well.

Sometimes I need to rip the tags off my shirts completely. Just cutting them leaves a jagged irritating edge that feels worse than the tag.  When I was a kid in the 70s, my mother would make me wear polyester shirts that were so scratchy I would feel like ripping it off.
Ugh and those horrible nylon clothes, or even worse having to sleep on nylon sheets. :evil:  :evil:  :evil:
What about nylon lace trims around the seam of sleeveless arm openings and around the neckline? :mad: I find there's nothing like badly-designed or bad-fitting undies to get me into a real bad mood. :evil:

Why don't they sew the labels into the side of the seam on the underside of the collar where they wouln't be seen? It isn't rocket science. :roll:

I've never thought of myself as being particularly sensitive in the sense of touch, but I have so many bad memories of uncomfortable clothes and shoes going back to my childhood.
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It's a bit like that story about the princess who could still feel a pea (small pod vegetable, I tell the story to the kids at work and there's sniggers all around, four year olds have dirty minds  ) she could still feel it under twenty feather mattresses. Bet she was an aspie.

We have a little girl in our family who is sometimes called "the princess and the pea". The princess is definitely an aspie story character. What was the princess' sensitivity supposed to indicate in the story? Was it her nobility, or did it have no particular meaning in the story?

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Lili Marlene Wrote:
We have a little girl in our family who is sometimes called "the princess and the pea". The princess is definitely an aspie story character. What was the princess' sensitivity supposed to indicate in the story? Was it her nobility, or did it have no particular meaning in the story?


As I recall, a "real princess" was so refined that any small discomfort was unbearable to her.  In the story, after a pea was slipped under twenty feather mattresses, she complained in the morning of "being black and blue all over" and had been unable to sleep a wink.  

All other considerations aside, this probably will make what happens on the wedding night itself come as something of a shock to her!  And as for bearing any royal heirs...:lol:

Alison


The story of the princess and the pea is full of sexual references, its not really about a girl sleeping on a pea. :wink:

It's a traditional Freudian based story.

Freud might have imposed his smutty interpretations upon this children's story, but he couldn't have had any influence on it as I it was written at a time that predates the date when Freud uleashed his nonsense on the world, before Freud was born.

Guess who is the author of the story "The Princess and the Pea"? Hans Christian Andersen, who has been identified as an aspie by Prof. M. Fitzgerald in a recently released book. I think that's a very strong indication that this is indeed a story with autistic sensory sensitivity as a main theme.  

The significance of the sensitivity in the story was that it was used by the prince as a test to sort the "real" princesses from the types of princesses who don't turn out to be to his liking. Here is a quote from the story:


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Once upon a time there was a prince who wanted to marry a princess; but she would have to be a real princess. He travelled all over the world to find one, but nowhere could he get what he wanted. There were princesses enough, but it was difficult to find out whether they were real ones. There was always something about them that was not as it should be. So he came home again and was sad, for he would have liked very much to have a real princess.  

I think this is especially interesting in light of the fact that the author, like many famous males identified as aspies, appeared to be heterosexual but never found his "princess". This is a story about an aspie who longs to meet another aspie of the opposite gender, a theme that exists in real life as well as in fiction. Here is a link to the story;
http://hca.gilead.org.il/princess.html

The more I look into famous works of fiction and their authors, the more I see how strong the Aspergian influence on our literary culture has been. Both Sherlock Holmes and his creator Conan Doyle are thought to be aspies (one real, once fictional). Sensory sensitivity seems to be a theme used in some stories by Edgar Allen Poe, which makes me wonder about that interesting author who has been the subject of much speculation about his neurological/mental characteristics.

Are young aspie ladies "real princesses"? I know a girl with many autistic traits, and I can say she certainly is a Real Princess, especially when you ask her to do something that she doesn't want to do!:roll:  :wink:

Freud might have imposed his smutty interpretations upon this children's story, but he couldn't have had any influence on it as I it was written at a time that predates the date when Freud uleashed his nonsense on the world, before Freud was born.

It was written before he was born, but he based his ideas on things like that. Objects and actions representing deeper hidden meanings, often of a sexual nature.
Well, I just don't believe in Freud. I don't think his ideas have any value or truth at all, so I don't apply them to works of literature etc.

To claim to know more about other peoples' minds (conscious or unconscious) and subjective experiences than they themself are aware of is in my opinion, a position of utter contempt and disrespect for other people, and that is the position which Freud took steadfastly during his "career". If I wanted to know what is the meaning of some piece of art or writing, I'd ask the artist or the author, not a psychoanalyst.
I think that some of it has credibility, but even he himself said 'sometimes a cigar is just a cigar'.

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'sometimes a cigar is just a cigar'.

Except when Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky are mucking about with it!

:shock:  Ewwwww :o


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