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A TEENAGER who sexually abused two young boys at Warwick Castle has been made subject to an indefinite hospital order under the Mental Health Act.

The judge also ordered that 19-year-old Daniel Lowe, who had two earlier indecency convictions, should be banned for life from doing any paid or unpaid work with children.

Lowe, of Frobisher Close, Hinckley, who had pleaded guilty at Warwick Crown Court to two charges of sexual activity with the seven-year-olds, was also ordered to register as a sex offender for life.

Jane Sarginson, prosecuting, said that last August Lowe, who has Aspergers Syndrome and hyperactivity attention deficit disorder, was taken by his parents to a family day at Warwick Castle.

Among the crowds attending the event, which included the demonstration of a giant catapult, were two seven-year-old cousins and their families.

The boys got separated from their families when they went down to the river, where they saw Lowe - who had gone off after an argument with his father - throwing stones.

Lowe talked to them and got them to play a 'truth or dare' game which led to him assaulting one of the boys.

The boy managed to get away after a struggle, at which Lowe turned his attention to the other seven-year-old and did the same to him until he also managed to escape.

The father of the first boy had been looking for them and saw his son running towards him, hysterical, with his cousin shortly behind.

Lowe, who had previous convictions for indecent exposure and inciting a child to take part in indecency, was detained by the second boy's father, and he was interviewed in the presence of his own father.

He told the police he could "not really tell you" what had happened in front of his father, but confirmed that what the two boys had said was true, added Miss Sarginson.

James House, representing him, said Lowe had been with his parents, but his father had not been able to go after him because of a relative who was in a wheelchair.

From icnetwork.co.uk
I have considered this. There is another story today about an aspie boy who was abused in a shop. It is a psychological theory that if some people are abused and do not get any help, they can replicate the behaviour.

Is it possible that this person was themselves abused as a child, and has not been able to communicate this to family, or others, who could help them.
As he had previous convictions, I think that he would have known it was wrong. His family, police, social worker, would all surely have explained to him what was wrong with the behaviour on previous occasions.
A TEENAGER who sexually abused two young boys at Warwick Castle has been made subject to an indefinite hospital order under the Mental Health Act.

He won't be anywhere near children for a long time. He's been sectioned, indefinetely. That basically means he will be a prisoner but at a mental hospital.

rossco

Lestat hat is a horrible, mean, nasty, violent, ruthless, terrible thing to say. I agree with your sentiments entirely.

rossco

Lestat that is a horrible, mean, nasty, violent, ruthless, terrible thing to say. I agree with your sentiments entirely.

rossco

Of course if they were thrown into a 20 foot pit with a few wild starving feral pigs for company, I don't think the police would even have to bother with what was better, worse or what have you for pedos.

If one of those sickos even did anything suggestive to my child they would want to be in a pit with three hungry feral pigs.

Ryuujin Wrote:
I remember seeing a study somewhere into child psychology and the fact that all children seem to do that kind of play with each other quite independant of external coercion at a certain age shows it's probably a natural and important stage of self identity development. But obviously, yes when an adult attempts to exploit that behaviour it's a serious problem, but between children it's probably quite harmless provided they are coerced out of it before they become too old and begin learning about things like sex.


I never did anything like that.  Ever.  I had no idea it was that common.

I am not in favor of the whole concept of registering sex offenders for life, either.  I do not like the fact that it has taken the position of somehow the worst crime possible in popular conception (after all, we don't have a Murderer Registry even though that is worse).

(I've been molested.  It's not good.  But there are worse things to do to a person.  And it's not like people who do it never change.  It depends on their motives in the first place and a lot of other things.)

rossco

No Flaradox. We do not need to be patronised. WE just have a difference of opinion. If you don't like our opinion  ignore it. I do you that same respect.

quickduck

Marla Singer Wrote:
But if he has mental issues, hanging out with other paedophiles might make it worse.


BardWolf Wrote:
Hatred only engenders more hatred. We won't solve anything if we just kill him. Honestly. How is hate going to fix anything?


tenaciouscj Wrote:
Very good points there. I also would say that putting this young man in with hardened offenders is not going to be any good. Better to have him in a mental hospital and find out why he did what he did and teach him how to act more appropriately in the future.


I'm with Marla, BardWolf, tenaciouscj etc...on this one. Putting this guy with hardened offenders would  only satisfy a need for vengeance...it would be essentially counterproductive; and would only increase the chances of a repeat offence.

Personally i'm of the view that somebody can not help having thoughts/desires related to paedophilia, but they can choose their actions. Someone who has strong desires in this way has not committed any crime and thus should receive the appropriate help. However, I do not see why someone who rapes a child is treated differently in this regard from someone who rapes an adult. Why are adult rapists not given sympathy but child rapists are?

The death penalty for rape and murder is fine by me.
The issue I see with life imprisonment is there is always a risk that they'll either escape or be released, on top of the issue of funding - i.e being fed and looked after costs money. However, this is an issue that i'm probably not qualified to judge completely so i'll concede that life imprisonment is perhaps much better if there is no option of release.

rossco

flardox Wrote:

rossco Wrote:
No Flaradox. We do not need to be patronised. WE just have a difference of opinion. If you don't like our opinion  ignore it. I do you that same respect.


Rossco

I'm not "patronising" you

"how many times...... Big Grin

all in favour of killing the paedophile repeat after me:

"two wrongs do not make a right"


Oh yes you clearly were.

flardox Wrote:
I was just putting this across from a psychological view that as quickduck said putting this guy behind bars with complete scum will only make things worse and bring a need for vengance.

also as anubend said the person that her was autistic and he was institutionalized and now wouldn't do something like that again. this goes to show that maybe like this lowe didn't realise what he was doing and even though it is wrong he needs psychiatric help.

the death penalty will NOT help If you want to have people put to death unnecassarily then fine but you are only being as bad as the person who commited the crime by killing them.

that being said it could just be in lowe's nature to be a paedophile but they will not know If he is not mentally asessed when If he is just a sicko then he should be locked away But if he does have mental issues  then than can solve them and he can be released if he is stable.

also the spelling is "flardox" no offence but that just makes me sound like a brand of mascara! Big Grin Tongue


I am sure many if not most of the forum disagree with me on this volatile issue and think my views abhorent and extreme. I am OK with that. I guess too many would think me as bad as those I condemn. Whatever. At the end of the day your views do not alter my perceptions of these monsters anymore that Quickduck's or Ambuend's.

I am as always honest and upfront. It not only would not break my heart knowing that they are permanently removed from society but I would not bat an eyelid in the thought that they were in no danger of ever hurting my children or anyone else's.

Again I do not mind other's disagreeing or ,irrespective of whether I personally think they are wrong, do not think worse of them for having different opinions.

rossco

Oh BTW I did not mean to mis-spell your name.
Typo.

rossco

Agreed. Very practical.
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