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Hi Mitsu, on the geek test, even if you did tick boxes that you thought were aspie like, you still didn't get an aspie result.

Online tests are only a guide, and its helpful to 'chat' to others on forums or chat rooms to get a feeling for any similarities.
Or you could go straight to a doctor and ask for an opinion.
I hope this will help to save you some time...

AFF and the members here can't really tell you if you have AS or diagnose you on forums, so nobody will be able to give you an answer. To diagnose is a major process actually and only professionals who are trained in the field of autism will be able to help you.

You are welcome here to share your ideas and so on  :smile:  but best would be to see a doctor of some sort if the AS thing concerns you.
Bearing in mind karm's disclaimer, knowing that we aren't in a position to diagnose, all we can do is acknowledge whether or not we can relate to your experiences in the context of our own...

Mitsu Wrote:
...pros...


Yeah!  They sound pretty much like manifestations of aspieness...

Mitsu Wrote:
...cons...

- I do not think I have major difficulties reading between the lines or reading body language, allthough I prefer if someone says it directly. Most of the time I can see there is something, but I don't know how to react to it.

I'm sure there are more cons, but I can't think of any now. I'll think about it. Maybe I am unwillingly not remembering them.


Everyone is different.  We all manifest different traits.  And even in relation to those specific traits, we experience them to varying degrees.

It ought to be borne in mind that the diagnostic criteria are usually broken down into groups of traits, and it will say, for that section, that a person on the spectrum will usually display, say, 2 out of 3 of abc traits, or 3 out of 5 of xyz traits.

Just because you don't have any major difficulties with body language, that doesn't rule out a diagnosis.  Also, it needs to be borne in mind that we're not 'frozen in time', like some practitioners believe.  Some practitioners seem to think that unless an adolescent or adult continues to present in the same way they would have as a young child, then that means the adolescent/adult can't be on the spectrum.  It's a contradiction, because it's also known as a developmental disability, or developmental delay.  But lots of practitioners overlook this, and seem to believe that we don't or won't develop as we grow older, we won't learn, we won't overcome difficulties or develop compensating behaviours, and if we do, then that means we weren't or aren't on the spectrum.  That's a nonsense.  And it's annoying.  

For example, you mention body language.  Many years ago, a colleague gave me a book on interview skills, which had a section about body language in interviews, and I learned some body language recognition skills and also how to do body language.  And then a few years ago, there was a programme on British television called 'Would like to meet', a kind of dating bootcamp programme, which had experts to give people advice about their dress sense and relationships, but also about body language in relation to flirting.  Before I saw that programme, I would often be clueless that a member of the opposite sex was interested in me, (in fact, I sometimes still am), but I'm better at recognising when people are flirting with me.  I think we can learn and acquire knowledge and skills and make up for any 'deficits' we may have.

The things that are needed are within the diagnostic criteria, it is posted on a thread in this section.

http://www.aspiesforfreedom.com/phpBB2/v...php?t=2033

Mitsu Wrote:
Well, I thought I'm in the right topic for trying to do some self-diagnosis, and I would like to share my experiences with people that are maybe officially diagnosed, and look for similarities...


I don't mean to pop your bubble, but those who are officially diagnosed don't really trust self diagnosis, that is why we are officially diagnosed.  :?

There are many paradoxes within autism, therefore one cannot always go according to "similarities"...  :?

Personally for me, self diagnosis did not suffice. I needed to know one way or the other.
Though I know other people do what feels right to them.



John do not use this forum to advise people to take illegal drugs.

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Why not advise taking illegal drugs? Whatever helps is good, whatever harms is bad, right?


Wrong! Whatever is bad, harms! So now stop your drug speech please.

karms Wrote:
I don't mean to pop your bubble, but those who are officially diagnosed don't really trust self diagnosis, that is why we are officially diagnosed.  :?

There are many paradoxes within autism, therefore one cannot always go according to "similarities"...  :?


That is not always true that those who are officially diagnosed don't really trust self-diagnosis, there are many reasons why pro and con towards an official dx vs. self and it's up to the individual. To say something like that would be to put those that are self-diagnosed as being inferior which they aren't. They may have reasons like employment or such to worry about that could be affected by an official dx.

karms Wrote:
...I don't mean to pop your bubble, but those who are officially diagnosed don't really trust self diagnosis, that is why we are officially diagnosed...

karms, I kind of get what you mean, but simultaneously disagree with it.

I can't speak for people who have been officially diagnosed and what their feelings are in respect of people who are self-DX.

However, I'm currently self-DX.  Personally, it's enough for me.  I know I'm aspie.  However, I know that self-DX is not enough for other people, for example my university.  I trust self-DX for myself.  I think most aspies are quite intelligent, and have sufficient insight to know whether or not the different criterion apply to them or not.  The problem is that self-DX is not sufficient for other people, including providers of services.

John, when people come here and post, you have no way of knowing what situation they are in. They could have any condition, even if they suspect AS. If you advise them to take drugs you could severely exacerbate any existing problems or medical conditions that they have.

If you cannot see the sense in not telling complete strangers to take drugs, then you really shouldn't be posting advice to anyone.
John, you never posted anything about the side effects of ecstasy, so you are not giving all the facts.
Regardless, due to legal guidelines, we cannot allow posts that advise people to take illegal drugs.

EnglishLulu Wrote:
However, I'm currently self-DX.  Personally, it's enough for me.  I know I'm aspie.  However, I know that self-DX is not enough for other people, for example my university...


I suppose when a person does a lot of research on autism and understands it comprehensively, it might be possible to make a spectrum diagnosis of oneself, maybe also through looking at family history patterns etc.

I discovered through working with professionals and with my own experience of psychology, there are so many other mental health disorders that "mimic" autistic traits, one has to be careful not making a misdiagnosis. If one can rule out all the other possibilities and left with AS as the one and only option left.

I can only speak of my own situation and experiences of course.

I don't see it like that myself.
If you have a dx it just becomes a fact the same as knowing that you're female which you can't reverse, it's just part of you.
The paper is about you, its not you as a person.
You could draw a doodle of you on it to personalise it. :wink:
And write all of your positive traits on it.

Amy Wrote:
The paper is about you, its not you as a person.
You could draw a doodle of you on it to personalise it. :wink:
And write all of your positive traits on it.


Cool

Or make a paper airplane out of it:

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